dz offence np ip again

lasaca · 31st May 2005, 11:56 AM

aleph 2 kit at:

http://www.my3c.net/product/detail.a...&ky=&pid=1937.

http://www.diyzone.net/article.php?s...der=0&thold=0.

jh6you · 31st May 2005, 12:10 PM

Just a question.

What is the difference between GB here and kit sales there...?
Only difference is the profit rate...?
I have been long confused.

Regards
jH

pinkmouse · 31st May 2005, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jh6you
Only difference is the profit rate...?

Yes, and in general, the people who run GBs here ask NP if they can go ahead first.

jh6you · 31st May 2005, 12:53 PM

Probably, diyzone might be paying some fraction to Nelson Pass.
Or, he might be encouraged by the GB model from this place.
It seems that diyAudio has no good justification to stop him, or blame him.

How come he advertises Aleph kits so openly...?

Regards
jH

kilowattski · 31st May 2005, 03:06 PM

JH,

I don't think so......Look at this thread

DIYZONE and IP

dggs · 31st May 2005, 05:50 PM

lasaca,

Have you ever thought about that by reporting such kits here, you are actually doing advertising for DIY Zone?
If it's not for the IP issue, who in this Forum wouldn't want to get one? A5 stereo kits for about USD$580 and A2 mono+mono for about USD$900.

uli · 31st May 2005, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jh6you

What is the difference between GB here and kit sales there...?
Only difference is the profit rate...?

This is clearly an infringement of international patent property.
As the Aleph current source is protected by international
patents the selling and advertising of amplifiers using this
protected circuit is illegal and therefore a crime.

Not to be misunderstood, but this kind of patent piratry is very
typical for far east (Chinese) companies.

Uli

jh6you · 1st June 2005, 01:26 AM

Yes . . .

. . . and cheap . . . I can watch DVD movies everyday on my projector . . .

Regards
jH

EUVL · 1st June 2005, 06:15 AM

It is not my intention at all to defend anyone or endorse any products from DIY Zone. And I am sure there are some patent lawyers out there who could correct me if I am wrong.

But with my limited understanding of patent law, both in the US and world wide, (I have only some 40 patents to my name) a patent has only effect in the country of application, unless one is prepared to apply worldwide. Even then the so-called WO patents do not include mainland China and Taiwan, and one should apply for those countries one year after application in the US separately if protection is wanted.

As far as my search could find, Mr. Pass has 6 patents, 3 under Threshold and 3 Pass Lab. ALL 6 are applied for and granted in the US only. That means that products using these patents that are manufactured, sold or being used in the US infringe those patents. Not applicable in the rest of the world, unfortunately.

Patrick

Nelson Pass · 1st June 2005, 07:52 PM

Actually I have 7 patents, and a UK grant on the first one.

31st May 2005, 11:56 AM	#1
lasaca diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: .	dz offence np ip again aleph 2 kit at: http://www.my3c.net/product/detail.a...&ky=&pid=1937. http://www.diyzone.net/article.php?s...der=0&thold=0.

31st May 2005, 03:06 PM	#5
kilowattski diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Long Island, New York	JH, I don't think so......Look at this thread DIYZONE and IP __________________ ----------------------------------------------- Kilowattski

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31st May 2005, 12:10 PM	#2
jh6you Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Near to the Pacific Ocean	Just a question. What is the difference between GB here and kit sales there...? Only difference is the profit rate...? I have been long confused. Regards jH

31st May 2005, 12:53 PM	#4
jh6you Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Near to the Pacific Ocean	Probably, diyzone might be paying some fraction to Nelson Pass. Or, he might be encouraged by the GB model from this place. It seems that diyAudio has no good justification to stop him, or blame him. How come he advertises Aleph kits so openly...? Regards jH

31st May 2005, 05:50 PM	#6
dggs diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: silicon valley	lasaca, Have you ever thought about that by reporting such kits here, you are actually doing advertising for DIY Zone? If it's not for the IP issue, who in this Forum wouldn't want to get one? A5 stereo kits for about USD$580 and A2 mono+mono for about USD$900.

1st June 2005, 01:26 AM	#8
jh6you Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Near to the Pacific Ocean	Yes . . . . . . and cheap . . . I can watch DVD movies everyday on my projector . . . Regards jH

1st June 2005, 06:15 AM	#9
EUVL diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003	It is not my intention at all to defend anyone or endorse any products from DIY Zone. And I am sure there are some patent lawyers out there who could correct me if I am wrong. But with my limited understanding of patent law, both in the US and world wide, (I have only some 40 patents to my name) a patent has only effect in the country of application, unless one is prepared to apply worldwide. Even then the so-called WO patents do not include mainland China and Taiwan, and one should apply for those countries one year after application in the US separately if protection is wanted. As far as my search could find, Mr. Pass has 6 patents, 3 under Threshold and 3 Pass Lab. ALL 6 are applied for and granted in the US only. That means that products using these patents that are manufactured, sold or being used in the US infringe those patents. Not applicable in the rest of the world, unfortunately. Patrick

1st June 2005, 07:52 PM	#10
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	Actually I have 7 patents, and a UK grant on the first one.

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