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Old 12th September 2004, 09:54 PM   #1
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Angry Look what I found on Ebay....

This auction is really odd....

Aleph-X boards at 49

I have no words....

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Old 12th September 2004, 10:00 PM   #2
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Why? Someone is selling his Aleph-X boards. Perhaps no time to build them, or no use for them anymore...
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Old 12th September 2004, 10:07 PM   #3
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This worries me too, this is not not a good development at all .. I'm not so good with words but I hope that somebody who is might convince the seller cancel such auctions..



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Old 12th September 2004, 10:15 PM   #4
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I have sent the following message to the seller through Ebay:

Are you aware of the fact that you are selling patented boards, that have generously been allowed to be produced for non profit purposes by Nelson Pass??

If this auction have not been removed within 24 hours, you will be reported for this to both the owner of the patent (nelson Pass) and Ebay.

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Lets see what happens.


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Old 12th September 2004, 10:20 PM   #5
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Ohh no... this is what I was afraid of

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=3839298002

Judging from all the other items he's selling it looks like he is in it for the money
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Old 12th September 2004, 11:08 PM   #6
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I'm confused by the guy, too!

But you folks don't seem to be familiar with german law (it's on ebay germany).
If he owns it, he may sell it. Even if it's patented, he may sell it as long as he doesn't violate german patent laws.

In case he's doing it as a business, that's another story.

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Old 13th September 2004, 08:50 AM   #7
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But he is silly enough to sell it in "Tube Amplifiers". And who knows what an Aleph X or Aleph ONO is? I think he won't get any bids
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Old 13th September 2004, 10:59 AM   #8
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Why? Someone is selling his Aleph-X boards. Perhaps no time to build them, or no use for them anymore...
What's wrong is that such boards clearly come from the group buy and that were proced about $5 each... selling 2 for 50 seems a 5x overprice to me....


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Old 13th September 2004, 11:48 AM   #9
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I know it's wrong, Andy.
My point is just: it's not illegal.

Another question that arises: Which rules might he actually violate? PassDIY, DIYAudio or ebay?

Regarding the group buy: May he have been a participant? I don't think so, as he wouldn't offer the set as a tube amp . He could just have bought them overpriced and someone else is to blame... I can't tell. Just wanted you to know that what he does is (still) legal.

The guy looks like a beginner ("audiosix52 (2)"), but behaves experienced.
As soon as I see him offering an item twice, I'll instantly agree with you!

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PS: Did he reply?
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Old 13th September 2004, 11:59 AM   #10
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PS: Did he reply?

Yes, he did. He don't care about the fact that the boards are for non profit only, and in general he couldn't care less if his actions causes problems to the DIY community or others in general.

As far as I'm concerned, at least he is not allowed to sell them as aleph x boards, as aleph x is a trademark of NP???

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