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Old 3rd July 2004, 09:19 PM   #11
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I am unaware of the links which have removed above, but
certainly there are plenty of non-profit sources for boards,
aren't there?
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Old 3rd July 2004, 10:54 PM   #12
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First, thx to NP for giving/posting all those Aleph/Zen schematics. I have just finished the "Mini-A" myself and i'm stunned. However the biggest problem a "beginner" DIY'er has these days is the pcb itself. I did NOT make the Aleph-X groupbuy myself and are therefore left out. Though ****? I'm not pleased with that. I'm also not skilled enough to make make my own pcb. However i could try. Well, at least 80% of the ppl that wanted/wants to build a Aleph-X has to figure out the pcb design itself. 1% actually does that. I agree that nobody should make money on NP's designs. KK does sell very good pcb's and has great support of it also. Why not post the gerbers instead? Then all could make their pcb's, i mean , if somebody REALLY want's to make a profit of NP's designs they will do that anyhow (based on his schematics), like diyzone.net.

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the link i posted was not for profit (at least kristijan says that, er, oops).

but i thought schematics were public domain? i dont have any affiliation with him, i have just used is product (as many others have), and its a great product.

from now on, when someone says where to get resistors, you should delete welborne labs, mouser, digikey, etc...
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Old 3rd July 2004, 11:08 PM   #14
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I totally agree with cowanrg.
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Old 3rd July 2004, 11:25 PM   #15
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Delete all links!!!!
BUT...... there aren't always nonprofit boards around. The aleph X
was a group buy, and I'm sure there will be some for sale if inquiries are made, but there isn't a reliable steady source for them and Aleph boards, etc. I would be honored to pay for aleph (&AX) boards if they were from PassDiy site and the price included legit rights to produce one amp.

I guess this is pin money for Nelson, but at least it would be self supporting and always available. Maybe there are legal reasons he doesn't want to sell them like he does the Pearl. Perhaps it establishes a value for the patent- I don't know

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the truth of it is, the boards from the aforementioned site i named are of much higher quality than most. secondly, between the documentation, layout work, and PCB quality, he cant be making money, and if he is, its a small amount, possibly to cover just time.

not to mention he is a contributor to this forum. i just dont see anything wrong with his link on this thread.

unless of course nelson has a problem with it.
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Old 3rd July 2004, 11:37 PM   #17
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the truth of it is, the boards from the aforementioned site i named are of much higher quality than most. secondly, between the documentation, layout work, and PCB quality, he cant be making money, and if he is, its a small amount, possibly to cover just time.

not to mention he is a contributor to this forum. i just dont see anything wrong with his link on this thread.

unless of course nelson has a problem with it.

With you on this, cowanrg


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Old 3rd July 2004, 11:59 PM   #18
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Cowrang, Trigon,

The issue here in not profit (although at $50each I find it hard to believe he's not making something). The issue is that he is selling boards using the IP of Nelson Pass and Pass Labs without their consent. He was actually asked stop selling the boards using the AX design on his site and he could post his link if he complied, but he chose not to stop and continues to sell the illegal boards.

He is still free to post on the forum if he wants to as we have not banned him, only the link to his site. Again, he chooses not to.
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Old 4th July 2004, 12:04 AM   #19
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Ok,
so the Aleph-X groupbuy did get the permission to go forward. What about ALL other that wants to build the AX that did NOT make the groupbuy? So we need to buy software for 5000USD, learn it and then make a pcb?
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Ok,
so the Aleph-X groupbuy did get the permission to go forward. What about ALL other that wants to build the AX that did NOT make the groupbuy? So we need to buy software for 5000USD, learn it and then make a pcb?
Kari,

Nelson Pass has no problems with the DIY'er using his designs for their own use, in fact he encourages it to a fault. It get's touchy with current designs as with the Aleph-X which uses patented design elements also used in the Pass Labs XA series amps, but he still doesn't mind if it's for your own use as a DIY'er.

WRT the past group buys, the board design art work can be found in a number of threads and are free for your use. If you would like to convert them to something a PCB maker can use you only need to pose the question here on the forum. You will get answers. Many of the larger PCB makers provide free software for making your art work. You only need to look around a little.

Also, as I answered to William, there were hundreds of AX boards made. If you ask in the trading post someone may be willing to sell you a couple.

WRT Kristijan, him selling the AX boards without consent is illegal, plain and simple.
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