I want to build a pair of x1000s.

Clarkcr · 15th June 2004, 07:47 PM

I feel funny asking this since the patented SuperSymmetry design by Nelson and the rest of the Pass Labs team is their bread and butter. I have to face reality, there is no way I can afford the retail version and I'm always wanting to build what I listen to, ride, fly or drive.

If this is morally wrong, I will abandon and go with the Aleph 1.2 for my overly demanding Martin Logan Monoliths. But, if it's possible and I can get enough support and help, I am would like to know the how's and the where's for rolling my own x1000.

rtirion · 15th June 2004, 08:59 PM

X1000 is still in production. I don't think PassLabs is ready to
release the service manual just yet.

Closest you will get, if you do a lot yourself, is when you start
here:

x100 backengineered here

Hope this is of use

Nelson Pass · 15th June 2004, 09:10 PM

The schematic of the X1000 (and the X600, which is virtually
the same) is actually public record. Just obtain a full copy
of patent # 5,376,899. You will have to fill in the values, but
some of the smart boys on the forum can help you with
that.

Brian Donaldson · 16th June 2004, 03:07 AM

Hey C
Start with a Mini Aleph. There's a lot to learn about class A heat dissapation and power use. A pair of X 1000's would cost over $2000 in parts excluding the case and heat sinks. Plus you'll need a dryer plug and an extra half ton of A/C in your listening room to run the things. Not that I mean to discourge or belittle your abilities, But one little misstep with this beast could litterally fry $800 in parts.
Good luck

moe29 · 16th June 2004, 04:00 AM

I'd like to be 17 again and dating Lindsay Lohan...

(i figured as long as Mr. Pass was granting wishes!)

Clarkcr · 16th June 2004, 03:23 PM

Granting wishes indeed! Thank you Mr. Pass....I take that as a vote of approval.

I may revert to the Aleph 1.2 just because there is more support out there and those that have already done it. However the SuSY idea is very tasty.

I could always use my Aleph 1.2 clones to power my own "El Pipe-O" Need to get Mrs. Clark's approval on that though!!

Is it accurate to say that the X1000 is a likeness to an SuSY Aleph1.2???

Thanks again,

Chris

Brian Donaldson · 17th June 2004, 03:06 AM

The X1000 and X600 are push pull and the Alephs are single end with active current source with neg impedance.

The X amps are Supersymmitry and have about 1/10th the distortion.

The Alephs are single ended and have no problems with reactive loads.

The AlephX floating around the forum is both susy and SE. But oh god the current they consume. You'll need to buy a few arc welders for the transformers.

grataku · 17th June 2004, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by moe29
I'd like to be 17 again and dating Lindsay Lohan...

(i figured as long as Mr. Pass was granting wishes!)

If I were to be 17 again I would want to date Tracy Lords.

Usually the people that are crazy enough to want to build something like the x1000 pop out of nowhere with the picture of the ready built amp.

Nelson Pass · 17th June 2004, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by grataku
If I were to be 17 again I would want to date Tracy Lords.

HaHa, been there. But who is Lindsay Lohan ?

grataku · 17th June 2004, 04:45 AM

Just one of the many new hollywood over-achievers.
Doesn't do it for me.

15th June 2004, 07:47 PM	#1
Clarkcr diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX	I want to build a pair of x1000s. I feel funny asking this since the patented SuperSymmetry design by Nelson and the rest of the Pass Labs team is their bread and butter. I have to face reality, there is no way I can afford the retail version and I'm always wanting to build what I listen to, ride, fly or drive. If this is morally wrong, I will abandon and go with the Aleph 1.2 for my overly demanding Martin Logan Monoliths. But, if it's possible and I can get enough support and help, I am would like to know the how's and the where's for rolling my own x1000.

15th June 2004, 08:59 PM	#2
rtirion diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000	x1000 Daunting Task :) X1000 is still in production. I don't think PassLabs is ready to release the service manual just yet. Closest you will get, if you do a lot yourself, is when you start here: x100 backengineered here Hope this is of use

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15th June 2004, 09:10 PM	#3
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	The schematic of the X1000 (and the X600, which is virtually the same) is actually public record. Just obtain a full copy of patent # 5,376,899. You will have to fill in the values, but some of the smart boys on the forum can help you with that.

16th June 2004, 03:07 AM	#4
Brian Donaldson diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Texas, Love it or leave it	Hey C Start with a Mini Aleph. There's a lot to learn about class A heat dissapation and power use. A pair of X 1000's would cost over $2000 in parts excluding the case and heat sinks. Plus you'll need a dryer plug and an extra half ton of A/C in your listening room to run the things. Not that I mean to discourge or belittle your abilities, But one little misstep with this beast could litterally fry $800 in parts. Good luck

16th June 2004, 04:00 AM	#5
moe29 diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Florida	I'd like to be 17 again and dating Lindsay Lohan... (i figured as long as Mr. Pass was granting wishes!)

16th June 2004, 03:23 PM	#6
Clarkcr diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX	Granting wishes indeed! Thank you Mr. Pass....I take that as a vote of approval. I may revert to the Aleph 1.2 just because there is more support out there and those that have already done it. However the SuSY idea is very tasty. I could always use my Aleph 1.2 clones to power my own "El Pipe-O" Need to get Mrs. Clark's approval on that though!! Is it accurate to say that the X1000 is a likeness to an SuSY Aleph1.2??? Thanks again, Chris

17th June 2004, 03:06 AM	#7
Brian Donaldson diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Texas, Love it or leave it	The X1000 and X600 are push pull and the Alephs are single end with active current source with neg impedance. The X amps are Supersymmitry and have about 1/10th the distortion. The Alephs are single ended and have no problems with reactive loads. The AlephX floating around the forum is both susy and SE. But oh god the current they consume. You'll need to buy a few arc welders for the transformers.

17th June 2004, 04:45 AM	#10
grataku diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: -	Just one of the many new hollywood over-achievers. Doesn't do it for me.

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