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Why the Hate for Spades?
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Old 12th October 2017, 03:20 PM   #41
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You wont find any kind a spade in aerospace or airplane , military stuff and so on , guess why

after all it's audio , nothing will go really wrong

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Old 12th October 2017, 03:25 PM   #42
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Why the Hate for Spades?
Yes, mil spec Amphenol subminiature D with screws and multi pins. You definitely won't find flying leads direct soldered to the PCB.
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Old 12th October 2017, 05:00 PM   #43
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Sorry, I'm using spades in highest DO160 level qualified airborne developments (french ALAT). No problems, ok, press-fit type.

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Old 12th October 2017, 05:20 PM   #44
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....... You definitely won't find flying leads direct soldered to the PCB.

sure , because the vibrations , not contact quality

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Old 12th October 2017, 09:58 PM   #45
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Used alot in the marine industry but vibration always gets to them, not a big deal to me with my amp boards whatever suits.
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Old 12th October 2017, 10:24 PM   #46
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Why the Hate for Spades?
The female connectors that slip over the spades have a small bump that makes hem almost impossible to remove unless you use pliers to pull off or push the locking bump flat prior to insertion. This is not on all connectors. I wonder if this is what is used to make it more reliable for uses where you don't expect to pull it off again.
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The locking tab stops them being pulled off but they can still be a sloppy fit if poorly designed. The females vary a lot, some are very good and reliable
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Old 13th October 2017, 12:41 AM   #48
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Great solution. I wish everyone designing a layout in this forum would do this. Especially the DIYA Store PCBs of Pass amps.
Just use deans plugs.
They are much better than spade connectors.
Gold plated copper, with incorporated spring for very good contact.
Spades are terrible.
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Old 13th October 2017, 12:48 AM   #49
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Why the Hate for Spades?
With a high quality brand spade connector (TE Connectivity/Faston) the connection quality is excellent with spade connectors. They are much lower profile than Deans connectors and less expensive too.

I might start using the ones that use a crimp tool that clamps the wire as well as the insulation for great strain relief.

http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/418/NG_DS...21-1099709.pdf
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With a high quality brand spade connector (TE Connectivity/Faston) the connection quality is excellent with spade connectors. They are much lower profile than Deans connectors and less expensive too.

I might start using the ones that use a crimp tool that clamps the wire as well as the insulation for great strain relief.

http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/418/NG_DS...21-1099709.pdf

Hi xrk971,

I use these often in aerospace applications. There are a lot of connection methods that are worse, but my personal preference is the insulated AMP(amphenol) connectors. They hold up better to vibration (probably not an issue for you). They also offer isolation, and in my opinion, they crimp easier/ better. Take my opinion for what it's worth .

Edit: you can buy die sets for most terminal crimpers that will crimp the insulation separately from the wire.

Cheers,
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