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Old 27th February 2004, 12:21 PM   #1
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Default aleph 3 and 89efficiency loudspeakers

hallo,

starting my first post with a quastion, not good. But maybe someone will responce.

I am in front of beginning my clone of 1st Aleph 3. I have dicided to clone this one, becouse it seems to be not so difficult.

I have read this amplifer may require some higher efficiency loudspeakers, >90db. If someone could tell me, if my VA Hadyn with 88,89db will be "prperly" driven by aleph 3?

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Old 27th February 2004, 03:30 PM   #2
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It all depends on how loud you want to play it.
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Old 27th February 2004, 05:45 PM   #3
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I've been using 89-90dB Odin loudspeakers powered by a 10W SE JLH amp quite successfully for a while. They played loud enough. It depends on how big your listening room is, too. The difference between 10W and 30W is not that big in reality. At least not 3 times louder.

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Old 27th February 2004, 06:36 PM   #4
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Actually it is, but it isn't perceived that way. From your
description I imagine an Aleph 3 would do the job.
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Old 27th February 2004, 10:50 PM   #5
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Definitely would do the job. I myself am planning of building an Aleph 30. I have all the parts but I can’t find the time to put them together. And yes, I was talking about the subjective perception of the difference between 10 and 30W.
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Old 28th February 2004, 05:49 AM   #6
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thank for all your reply

i must admit, i was thinking, that my question is not only the "loudness of the music" problem. I do not hear music very loud usually. My room is 13 square meters large. I thougt that low efficiency lodsppeakers and aleph 3 may provide me with some inproper quality of sound.

so thanks one more time.

will report progress of the work
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Old 28th February 2004, 09:45 AM   #7
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Hi,

A friend of mine has a Hiraga amp with 20watt per channel.
They play loud with an efficiency of 88db!
(Remember with an aleph 30 you have 60watts for stereo.)

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Old 28th February 2004, 09:03 PM   #8
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As with sex, it isn't necessarily size that counts most. I have
heard small wattage amps do a better job of controlling a
loudspeaker and otherwise sound better, but I have also
heard the reverse. Assuming that you are not clipping the
amp, potential power relates to quality, but not always in a
predictable way.
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Old 28th February 2004, 09:33 PM   #9
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Originally posted by tomecz
thank for all your reply

i must admit, i was thinking, that my question is not only the "loudness of the music" problem. I do not hear music very loud usually. My room is 13 square meters large. I thougt that low efficiency lodsppeakers and aleph 3 may provide me with some inproper quality of sound.

so thanks one more time.

will report progress of the work
13 square meters is a small room (assuming this is the
floor plan) and 88/89db is not remotely low efficiency
(82db to 84dB I would describe as low) in my book 89dB
is medium/high ( 86dB/87dB being medium).

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