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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern Tier NY
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Yes, Peak power will occur between 3-4 ohms. I am thinking towards my future speakers which will be in the +/-4 ohm range. With my current speakers (8ohm), this amount of bias shouldn't hurt either as I am assured to reach voltage limit before I reach current limit. 100Watts is more than enough. Finally, my basement is cold!!!!
P.S. Nelson said that increasing the bias increases the sonic performance, up to a point. I'm not sure where that point is but would like to find it. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern Tier NY
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This photo shows the monoblocks in a more finished state minus the faceplate and electronics close to their new home.
Regards Scott |
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Ancaster, Ontario
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern Tier NY
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Funny you should ask, My wife said the same thing.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Netherlands
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Aren't those heatsinks designed for active cooling (with a fan ???), if not where did you get them.
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#106 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Southern Tier NY
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The sinks are greatly enhanced by fans, but not required if they are large enough. Hense the need for a tow motor.
I designed these based on my old text books from college. With natural convection they should remove over 500 watts per side with 30 degree C rise. I derrated them 50% considering there has to be good thermal contact between the plates and the spacer. I will use thermal grease when I final assemble it. I did a test with my wifes iron,(I thought it was a good idea until my wife saw it) and I was amazed at how well it kept 1200W. After two hours I could still hold my hand on the base plate. I understand that it is not a "scientific or quantitative test" The sinks are made by 1/4" base plate, 1/2x1/2 spacer, 1/8" plate, spacer, 1/8 plate, etc. Size is 8" by 24". If it doesn't work in real life I'll get a fan. Scott P.S. I now know that it is not proper to respond to the wifes question "What re you doing with my iron" is NOT "I'm just borrowing it, beside you never use it anyway" |
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diyAudio Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Look at the graph in the spreadsheet. Changing voltage and current have a tremendous influence on the output power vs. impedance of the load. Choose appropriate values for your speakers. Finally, as Nelson says: Burn heat as much as your heatsinks can take. /Hugo
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#108 |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC - USA
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At least with answers like that. Maybe something along the lines of "Just making sure this ol' thing still works right. They are on sale over at ?????'s you know." But that could bring even more problems!
Anyway, I'm guessing you are going to be asked again and again about the heatsinks, so I'll shoot first. I understand the general construction of laminated plates with 1/2" spacers in between. My question is how many spacers? Are they located right at the mounting points of each Mosfet? Overall, it does seem like a smart way of assembling a clean looking heatsink. The downfall of so many junctions to be smooth and thermally greased does seem real, but your de-rating seems conservative, which may just be fine. With a size like that, though, I'd guess you would want wider or more spacers. Just a guess. Can you provide a sketch or something of your arrangement. Regardless, good thinking. I hope upon completion your are sonically satisfied and have adequate cooling. Sandy. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Seattle
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Those are cool looking heatsinks, but the idea of using that much thermal grease gives me the willies. Try Digi-Key #HS243-ND instead. That is Aavid Ultrastick Thermal Compound. It is non-greasy, waxy material with better heat transfer characteristics than silicone grease, and is removable. Best of all, it doesn't "travel" or spread oily crap everywhere. It undergoes a phase change at 130 or 140 or so (use your wife's oven, since you already burned up the iron). It expands at that point to fill all available space.
I used it to bond built up sections of my A-75 heatsinks; u-channel to base plate, base plate to finned sections. It works great. Downside: it costs $17.13 per stick. But stick is good for 1000 sq. inches used correctly. I'll try to attach a photo, but might exceed bandwidth. Larry Wright Seattle area |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Seattle
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Rats! I didn't mean to use the word "bond", because this stuff is not an adhesive; it is just a thermally transmitting compound. To bond sections, I used screws.
Larry Wright Seattle area |
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