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Old 28th November 2012, 09:32 PM   #21
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Gentlemen, I agree with all of you. Faking semiconductors in particular is a poorest business model. There will a gross mismatch between the fabrication structure of the fake and its expected function. Fake Viagra has a good probabililty of working because of the "placebo" effect which is the gift of peoples' minds. Fortunately, there is no placebo effect with fake semiconductors. It is a clean go or no go.
Thanks flg for the simple quality control test.
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Old 28th November 2012, 10:19 PM   #22
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"a possible Fake R100"

a probable fake.
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Old 28th November 2012, 10:31 PM   #23
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I have had almost 4000 fake fets come through my hands. Some in very official looking boxes. Venturing outside of known channels or purchasing agents will get in you trouble. I went toe to toe with big us EOL dealer who had fakes get into their chain. Said it could not happen...that is until the manufacturer told them they were incorrect. China has a bad reputation. I have no interest in being politically correct on the topic. There are known worldwide for stealing patents and making substandard goods, as well as fakes. My brother works for a major agricultural company that has to double check product that they buy from a contracted source. EVen thought they have done business for many years, they still try to slip crap through. Caveat Emptor. Trust me.
Which dealer or distributor had fakes get into their chain? And which parts specifically. Because I've bought parts from some of them. I questioned them too and they told me the reason to buy from them is because they are "franchise dealers" and they never get counterfeit goods.

I have no interest in being politically correct either. The Chinese will knock off anything or steal any technology. It's a big problem.
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Old 28th November 2012, 10:33 PM   #24
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I have had almost 4000 fake fets come through my hands. Some in very official looking boxes. Venturing outside of known channels or purchasing agents will get in you trouble. I went toe to toe with big us EOL dealer who had fakes get into their chain. Said it could not happen...that is until the manufacturer told them they were incorrect. China has a bad reputation. I have no interest in being politically correct on the topic. There are known worldwide for stealing patents and making substandard goods, as well as fakes. My brother works for a major agricultural company that has to double check product that they buy from a contracted source. EVen thought they have done business for many years, they still try to slip crap through. Caveat Emptor. Trust me.
its only politically incorrect if its not true...

you only have to see that numerous large successful businesses have come into being to vet parts for large manufacturers. even the US military came undone.

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Old 28th November 2012, 10:38 PM   #25
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China has destroyed the trade in almost all over the world, counterfeiters are in almost everything, have contributed to the crisis World.

If paid by Paypal, make a complaint to paypal and get your money.

Both Tranton Shenzhen Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. as the Elcodis.com are companies that sell fake stuff.

I received emails from two.

I asked to the two photos, one said he sent the photo with the product, not the other responds, the Tranton sold each to $ 10, the Elcodis sells $ 37.5 each.

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Thank you for the request. I have a quotation for you.

Item: (SJEP120R100A )
Quantity requested:4
Quantity available: 4
Price per item: 37,5 USD
I can send you the order in 3-5 days after payment.

I will also need your shipping address to calculate shipping cost. Please let me know if you have any shipping account.

We accept payment by:
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Old 28th November 2012, 10:42 PM   #26
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China has destroyed the trade in almost all over the world, counterfeiters are in almost everything, have contributed to the crisis World.

If paid by Paypal, make a complaint to paypal and get your money.

Both Tranton Shenzhen Electronic Technology Co., Ltd. as the Elcodis.com are companies that sell fake stuff.
Obviously, you can't try to find Semisouth parts on Alibaba!
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Old 28th November 2012, 10:46 PM   #27
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he sends the photo with the product? haha. very useful...
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Old 28th November 2012, 11:00 PM   #28
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Which dealer or distributor had fakes get into their chain? And which parts specifically. Because I've bought parts from some of them. I questioned them too and they told me the reason to buy from them is because they are "franchise dealers" and they never get counterfeit goods.

I have no interest in being politically correct either. The Chinese will knock off anything or steal any technology. It's a big problem.
Not wiling to say based on how things turned out. If you cant buy from major distributor, do not buy without 100% guarantee of return. I would even go so far as to suggest only accepting sealed boxes. Of course this is a limitation for small buys. In that case, buy from distributors only.
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Old 28th November 2012, 11:19 PM   #29
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I've got some parts from Online Components a couple years ago which I haven't used yet. Just want to be sure they're not fakes.
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even Digikey and mouser have been burned lately
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