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Old 16th October 2012, 06:34 PM   #2421
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I envision a multi-disciplinary team including gurus like you of high-end audio [a key contributor] revisiting and laying the framework for a solution to this question. Matter of time!
A lot of products do exist already that (try) to simulate the sound of certain amps. Especially adding warmth and small amounts of tube overdrive effects are popular.

You can get a good plugin for free here:
Audio tube/valve overdrive plugin (AU, VST) - Voxengo Tube Amp - Voxengo

This guys also put a lot of effort into such things:
Softube

Such software can add a bit of warmth and distortion as found in some tube amps, but never reach real perfection.

From my listening experience with J2 inspired amps fed with such digital tube-sound plugin - and comparing that sound to original FirstWatt J2:

Such software can bring the sound a bit closer into the area that you prefer, but never matches the lush, silky, detailed, involving and a tiny bit sparkling sound of the original J2....it is absolutely unrivaled.
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Old 16th October 2012, 06:42 PM   #2422
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Old 16th October 2012, 07:21 PM   #2423
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It would seem logical but somehow the efforts in that direction have not
borne fruit. Similarly, simply introducing these elements on the front end
of the amplifier while using a highly linear output stage have not given the
same results.

Nelson, a bit of a pointed question. Exlcuding Papa SiT amps that are unobtanium, what do you like to drive your L300's with?
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Old 16th October 2012, 07:42 PM   #2424
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A lot of products do exist already that (try) to simulate the sound of certain amps. Especially adding warmth and small amounts of tube overdrive effects are popular.

You can get a good plugin for free here:
Audio tube/valve overdrive plugin (AU, VST) - Voxengo Tube Amp - Voxengo

This guys also put a lot of effort into such things:
Softube

Such software can add a bit of warmth and distortion as found in some tube amps, but never reach real perfection.

From my listening experience with J2 inspired amps fed with such digital tube-sound plugin - and comparing that sound to original FirstWatt J2:

Such software can bring the sound a bit closer into the area that you prefer, but never matches the lush, silky, detailed, involving and a tiny bit sparkling sound of the original J2....it is absolutely unrivaled.
Interesting links. Softube has really done quite a bit of complex work.
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Old 17th October 2012, 03:39 PM   #2425
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thanks to tea-bag, Zen Mod and Edcor......


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Old 17th October 2012, 03:58 PM   #2426
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Old 17th October 2012, 05:51 PM   #2427
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His ears are good. I agree with many of his assessments.
Of course the edcors look big and shiny!! I would probably try those last!
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Old 17th October 2012, 05:54 PM   #2428
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those green ones are nickel amorphous toroids

........ or something like this ........ certainly shiny when broken
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I would have asked what "things" the shiny ones are, but thanks to Tea-Bag I'm now a bit wiser.
The Jensens are catching dust here, only some time and some semiconductors are missing to get my fingers dirty. Can't wait for it!
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Greedy Boyz! are kicking up some dust again. .i have taken my addiction and aimed it at speakers. I need something better to enjoy my selection with.
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