fake fwt f5 on ebay aus

[slr 5000]

hi mr pass
i thought i would point this out as i dont like to see people taking advantage of your good name and generosity here on the forum

F5 AMPLIFIER | eBay

cheers Sheafer

 

[Rodeodave]

You can (and should) report the item as fake/counterfeit/replica to ebay when you're logged in.

 

[kroyin]

How is this any different from the Pass design PCB's floating around in EBAY.

At least this guy is saying that this is an assembled version on the PASS F5 & 700$ he is not making a huge lot of money

 

[Rodeodave]

Nelson is okay with people using his published designs if - and only if - it's not for commercial interest AND it must be clearly stated that the item is a clone and not the actual thing. The latter helps avoiding that people mistake fake/counterfeit/replica items (and their performance) with the real product.

 

[AudioSan]

i doubt this guy is making any money on this amps. F5c boards with dual outputs. panasonic caps. dual 300VA transformers. and a modushop chassis.
thats not cheap. and he don't let anyone belive its the real amp.

 

[noSmoking]

That's why you have international patent/copyright lawyers.......Sad isn't it,and the bad thing is YOU gotta pay to stop them,Don't ask me how I know that,I'm having a good day!

 

[slr 5000]

to those who think this is ok

no1, he is using the pass name to sell his product

no2 ,wether he is making a big profit or not he is using a schematic that was given to us on this forum in good faith with strict orders against commercial use

"bozos" like this only care about themself /dollars and will ruin it for the rest of us who really do appreciate mr pass and his contributions to this site/our community

Sheafer

 

[AudioSan]

1) his name is used to tell it's a pass design only (little grey zone)
2) he use PCB's from this store, and actually a cviller schematic (based on pass schematic) and with that price, i doubt it is any commercial gain.

 

[RS232]

Item condition: brand new
And nowhere is a mention to a clone

 

[AudioSan]

no mention of a clone. but he do mention it's his own build
and he has not made it look like the real one and no logo.

 

[fab]

Shorted turn?

Is there a potential shorted turn on the transfos (green wire to mounting screw of transfo) according to one picture?...

From ebay item title its states "F5 Amplifier" so it is using Pass product name to advertise its product...
Other ebay sellers do the same thing even for other brand names but it is not a justification to make it acceptable...

Fab

 

[AudioSan]

F5 is no trade name. how many DVD players is named DVDXXXX?
or CD players name CDXXX?

 

[Melon Head]

This is not in the spirit of Pass Labs DIY.
Nelsons designs are intended for personal use, not to be sold for profit.

 

[AudioSan]

i agree it chould not be sold for profit. dont get me wrong.

 

[fab]

F5 is no trade name. how many DVD players is named DVDXXXX?
or CD players name CDXXX?

I said "Pass product name" not Pass name. Anyway, it is only rethoric, the intention is the same since everybody knows that "F5" for an audio amplifier means "Pass F5 amplifier"... I am not talking about legality but more ethics...

i agree it chould not be sold for profit. dont get me wrong.

What about the possible shorted turn...?

Fab

 

[AudioSan]

nice catch. i did not notice that. yes it seams like its grounded thrue one of the transformers. that can make some problems.

 

[noSmoking]

Hi audiosan,

i agree it chould not be sold for profit. dont get me wrong.

Maybe he won't sell many I looked at his site and he only sold a few from his feedback page ,Hopefully people that see it on this site will know not to touch it with a ten foot wooded pole.
Some people don't let stupid stop them,lol. I D 10 T
Maybe if everyone on this site was to email him 10 times a day for a month.........

 

[KatieandDad]

The advert is MISLEADING. It should clearly state that this is a DIY build of the Pass design.

There are a LOT of guys on E-Bay that do not have English as their first language and could buy this thinking that they are buying an original Pass unit.

Nothing wrong with selling your CLONE in this case as long as it is clearly sold as a DIY CLONE.

 

[vdi_nenna]

Couple of my best clients requested to assemble this because these amplifier is on of the best CLASS A and they have paid arround 700USD to get one.

"My best clients..."?

 

[AudioSan]

"My best clients..."?

he has a e-bay shop. by clients i guess he means costomers
and regarding the amp. yes it is one of the best
i'm enjoying this amp for hours every day
well. not this(his) amp. but my own F5