Aleph PCB group order

Tieftoener · 8th October 2003, 04:14 PM

Hi all!

I have been colaborating with BrianGT, and I am organizing a group order for Aleph PCB's of his design. The driver boards are of main concern, but if there is enough interest, I will be willing to work out an output/CCS board order as well. BrianGT is doing us all a great service, and he has offered to make any changes or modifications to the board to make it better.
So, first off... does anybody have any suggestions???

Personally, I don't find a need for silkscreen and soldermasks. However, I certainly don't have a problem with it. It's only about $2 more per board to have it done, so for the professional look on a mass order that will be fairly cheap anyway, I think it's worthwhile.

Right now, if I can get 20 commitments to a pair of drivers (one board per channel), pricing is as follows (silkscreen and soldermask included in pricing):

34/pr - 1wk lead

29/pr - 2wk lead

26/pr - 3wk lead

23/pr - 4wk lead

22/pr - 5wk lead

Realistically, I don't think anybody could complete an Aleph chassis and power supply in a week, so the need for that quick of a turn around doesn't seem necessary. Especially when there will be a shipping delay to me (which I will pony up for), and then another shipping delay to the buyer. I'm personally leaning towards the 4 or 5 week lead time. This will give folks a chance to put some money into the chassis in the mean time and not have to pay for the components right away, only to sit in a box, waiting for a PCB.

I am not in this for money, and I have spoken with BrianGT about pricing - I am offering these well below the price which he thought would be fair. Not to mention, Brian doesn't want others profiting off of his work I'm sure!!!

Keep in mind, the prices above DO NOT include the shipping from my door to yours. At this point, I plan on just mailing them to each of you via USPS in a padded envelope. I anticipate this being a lot cheaper than UPS or FedEx shipments to residential areas - in addition, it's a lot easier to drop it in any mailbox than have to colaborate with a shipping drop-off point. Any discrepencies?

I will try to get some idea of a flat rate cost for each pair of boards to be shipped as described above. I anticipate that payment would be easiest through money orders as I know that many people are against Paypal nowadays. Money orders usually free at your own local bank. I would accept personal checks (you could just write a check to your bank and get me a money order

), but naturally I couldn't make the order until all the checks cleared.

As a matter of suggestion to BrianGT. We can only get the soldermask on one side of the board with a 1-layer design. If it was made a 2-layer design with say the second side being a ground plane or something (not complicating the previous work done), we could get the soldermask on both sides, making it more worth-while. It's actually cheaper (like $0.10 per board) to get a 2-layer board with the soldermask on both sides. I think this would make them look much nicer and more professional. Just my

...

I leave the floor to you people now... suggestions? Inquiries? If you're interested, try to keep your inquiry public on the forum for now so others can see that there is interest.

roddyama · 8th October 2003, 04:23 PM

Tieftoener,

Are you opposed to PayPal? I know when I did the Cardas bulk buys earlier this year, more then 80% paid with PayPal. Of course you’ll need to add 3% to the price (4% for out of the US).

Brian,

Is this the same design that Dale sold?

Tieftoener · 8th October 2003, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Are you opposed to PayPal?

Nope, I'm not opposed at all. I haven't had any problems with them, but I have read many people had. It makes no difference to me, I was just trying to adapt to the needs of others.

IanHarvey · 8th October 2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by roddyama
Are you opposed to PayPal?

There are horror stories on www.paypalsucks.com (although I make it clear I have no experience one way or another).

Cheers
IH

grataku · 8th October 2003, 06:25 PM

I am a private customer and I have used paypal to send and receive money with no problem-o at all.

Flat rate USPS is 3.75 in the US and 5 in selected foreign countries (in the small USPS provided envelope that is fine for the boards)

Tieftoener · 8th October 2003, 06:37 PM

Quote:

There are horror stories on www.paypalsucks.com (although I make it clear I have no experience one way or another).

Like I said, I haven't had a problem with them yet, but I've only used them a few times. It's not really that big of a deal because I'll accept paypal. As roddyama mentioned, there would be an additional 3% charge to those who order using Paypa. So... let's get on to other business...

By the way, I forgot in my first post to thank Mr. Pass for sharing his designs - so, THANK YOU MR. PASS!! You rock

Tieftoener · 8th October 2003, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Flat rate USPS is 3.75 in the US and 5 in selected foreign countries (in the small USPS provided envelope that is fine for the boards)

Thank you grataku! Now, we got that noodled out too!

roddyama · 8th October 2003, 06:41 PM

I know Brian has a few versions of his Aleph board designs and one or more AlephX designs. I'm wondering which one you plan on selling.

Sandy H. · 8th October 2003, 06:52 PM

I'd be happy for 2-4 week prices for the driver boards for Aleph 2 (I don't think it matters as far as the driver board goes. . .) from the previous Brian/GT & Dale group buy or an updated version if there are improvements.

So, I guess that's 1 pair out of 20. . .

Sandy.

spitz · 8th October 2003, 07:08 PM

If its the Aleph-X, I'm in for sure. If its Aleph 2's, I might have to be talked into it.

8th October 2003, 04:14 PM	#1
Tieftoener diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Coastal AL	Aleph PCB group order Hi all! I have been colaborating with BrianGT, and I am organizing a group order for Aleph PCB's of his design. The driver boards are of main concern, but if there is enough interest, I will be willing to work out an output/CCS board order as well. BrianGT is doing us all a great service, and he has offered to make any changes or modifications to the board to make it better. So, first off... does anybody have any suggestions??? Personally, I don't find a need for silkscreen and soldermasks. However, I certainly don't have a problem with it. It's only about $2 more per board to have it done, so for the professional look on a mass order that will be fairly cheap anyway, I think it's worthwhile. Right now, if I can get 20 commitments to a pair of drivers (one board per channel), pricing is as follows (silkscreen and soldermask included in pricing): 34/pr - 1wk lead 29/pr - 2wk lead 26/pr - 3wk lead 23/pr - 4wk lead 22/pr - 5wk lead Realistically, I don't think anybody could complete an Aleph chassis and power supply in a week, so the need for that quick of a turn around doesn't seem necessary. Especially when there will be a shipping delay to me (which I will pony up for), and then another shipping delay to the buyer. I'm personally leaning towards the 4 or 5 week lead time. This will give folks a chance to put some money into the chassis in the mean time and not have to pay for the components right away, only to sit in a box, waiting for a PCB. I am not in this for money, and I have spoken with BrianGT about pricing - I am offering these well below the price which he thought would be fair. Not to mention, Brian doesn't want others profiting off of his work I'm sure!!! Keep in mind, the prices above DO NOT include the shipping from my door to yours. At this point, I plan on just mailing them to each of you via USPS in a padded envelope. I anticipate this being a lot cheaper than UPS or FedEx shipments to residential areas - in addition, it's a lot easier to drop it in any mailbox than have to colaborate with a shipping drop-off point. Any discrepencies? I will try to get some idea of a flat rate cost for each pair of boards to be shipped as described above. I anticipate that payment would be easiest through money orders as I know that many people are against Paypal nowadays. Money orders usually free at your own local bank. I would accept personal checks (you could just write a check to your bank and get me a money order ), but naturally I couldn't make the order until all the checks cleared. As a matter of suggestion to BrianGT. We can only get the soldermask on one side of the board with a 1-layer design. If it was made a 2-layer design with say the second side being a ground plane or something (not complicating the previous work done), we could get the soldermask on both sides, making it more worth-while. It's actually cheaper (like $0.10 per board) to get a 2-layer board with the soldermask on both sides. I think this would make them look much nicer and more professional. Just my ... I leave the floor to you people now... suggestions? Inquiries? If you're interested, try to keep your inquiry public on the forum for now so others can see that there is interest. __________________ Tieftoener -- You're ears can sense a movement in air that causes your eardrum to move less than 1/10th of the diameter of a Hydrogen atom! Don't abuse the one of the most amazing organs your Creator gave you!

8th October 2003, 04:23 PM	#2
roddyama diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Michigan	Tieftoener, Are you opposed to PayPal? I know when I did the Cardas bulk buys earlier this year, more then 80% paid with PayPal. Of course you’ll need to add 3% to the price (4% for out of the US). Brian, Is this the same design that Dale sold? __________________ Rodd Yamashita

8th October 2003, 06:41 PM	#8
roddyama diyAudio Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Michigan	I know Brian has a few versions of his Aleph board designs and one or more AlephX designs. I'm wondering which one you plan on selling. __________________ Rodd Yamashita

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8th October 2003, 06:25 PM	#5
grataku diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: -	I am a private customer and I have used paypal to send and receive money with no problem-o at all. Flat rate USPS is 3.75 in the US and 5 in selected foreign countries (in the small USPS provided envelope that is fine for the boards)

8th October 2003, 06:52 PM	#9
Sandy H. diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC - USA	I'd be happy for 2-4 week prices for the driver boards for Aleph 2 (I don't think it matters as far as the driver board goes. . .) from the previous Brian/GT & Dale group buy or an updated version if there are improvements. So, I guess that's 1 pair out of 20. . . Sandy.

8th October 2003, 07:08 PM	#10
spitz diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis	If its the Aleph-X, I'm in for sure. If its Aleph 2's, I might have to be talked into it.

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