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Alexontherocks 1st April 2012 05:23 PM

"Reference to A2" what is this product?
 
I was just looking on the internet for class A amplifier boards/amps (out of curiosity from the thread on the chinese clones) ad found this site and product

100W Mosfet Pure Class A SE amplifier PCB stereo pair ! | eBay

I am in no way stating ot implying this seller has slavish imitations of NP's designs but I was curious. In the product description wer have a "reference to A2" is this intended to be a reference to the Aleph series?

Can anyone elaborate on what this product is? Is it a fair application of NP's designs or is it totally unrelated?

Thanks
Alex

Zen Mod 1st April 2012 05:29 PM

Aleph

AudioSan 1st April 2012 05:37 PM

yes it is based on aleph2.
and useless boards if you ask me :)
and no. i do not belive he has nelsons blessing.

Alexontherocks 1st April 2012 05:40 PM

why are they useless? :)

There might a problem then if the quality is that bad but I guess they got away with the century old "reference to" formula to avoid liability.

Zen Mod 1st April 2012 05:46 PM

buy them or not

your choice

I would not , strictly from respect

AudioSan 1st April 2012 05:47 PM

try to dissepate 300W from one heatsink, and look how big i gets :)
there is a reason for aleph2 being monoblocks :)

Alexontherocks 1st April 2012 05:51 PM

@Zen mod I do not want to buy them. Trust me I have my hands full with one of the most challenging projects yet:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes...m-tubes-9.html

2KW from tubes...kicks an aleph 1.2 in the behind in terms of construction requirements. 1000w only for filaments :)

I was just trying to understand what is happening on the web with pass products.

I understand this may have been a wrong (poor rather) choice of topic. Please cancel the thread.

Best
Alex :D

@AudioSan I understand...it is not an inherent flaw in the design but rather a poor choice of layout.

Zen Mod 1st April 2012 06:02 PM

;)

no need for thread canceling ....

edit: did I told you that you're nutz ?

:rofl:

AB2 with GU81 .........

Alexontherocks 1st April 2012 06:05 PM

BTW I think you should have a sticky in this section about exactly what is the situation in regards to Aleph products, their clones (authorised manufacturers), advice and/or caveats you wish users to know about.

A guide to the world of Pass clones so to speak.

Just a suggestion.. :)

AudioSan 1st April 2012 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexontherocks (Post 2968929)
@Zen mod I do not want to buy them. Trust me I have my hands full with one of the most challenging projects yet:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/tubes...m-tubes-9.html

2KW from tubes...kicks an aleph 1.2 in the behind in terms of construction requirements. 1000w only for filaments :)

I was just trying to understand what is happening on the web with pass products.

I understand this may have been a wrong (poor rather) choice of topic. Please cancel the thread.

Best
Alex :D

@AudioSan I understand...it is not an inherent flaw in the design but rather a poor choice of layout.

yes. i was thinking of the layout :) designflaws it don't know. and will not find out :D

regarding aleph PCB's. i only know of KK-PCB design. he have alot of aleph boards. and chipamp.com :)


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