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Old 30th May 2012, 11:49 PM   #1511
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100W pr ch F5 will draw about 240W pr ch. depending on rail voltage and bias.
so 500VA and up pr ch.
the diodes kan share a smal heatsink. just to have a even temp.
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Old 31st May 2012, 02:06 AM   #1512
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Originally Posted by AndrewT View Post
A pair of 800VA transformer will suffer repeated and frequent nuisance blowing of close rated fuses.

Fuses rated to start a transformer would normally be about 3 times the value of close rated fuses.

800VA / 115Vac * 3 = 20.8A.
A T20A fuse would be expected to start a single 800VA toroid transformer without suffering nuisance blowing on start up, or later.

Adopt a soft start circuit and close rate the fusing for each transformer.
You should find that a T8A fuse will work reliably. You may find that a T6.3A works in the long term if you select appropriate values in the soft start circuit.
Since the Op is in the states, a 20.8A fuse option would be a waste of time unless he had a dedicated 30A power drop equal to the task to allow the fuse to actually blow.

Most power outlets in the states are 15A fuse/circuit breaker protected. Perhaps a run or two at 20A in the kitchen or laundry, but, it is not normal practice.

Maybe that is a potential solution in lieu of a soft start circuit.
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Old 31st May 2012, 12:05 PM   #1513
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Without a soft starter, a 625VA at 230Vac triggers the 16A circuit breaker here.

With a S-S, i can easily operate a 3KVA toroidal on a standard 16A automatic main fuse. With 4.5% higher mains voltage nowadays, well under 85% max continuous rating for such a load.
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Old 31st May 2012, 12:34 PM   #1514
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as a rule of thumb i use soft start on everything above 300VA
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Old 31st May 2012, 03:31 PM   #1515
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Isn't that what the thermistor is for, slow the in rush?
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Old 31st May 2012, 04:44 PM   #1517
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Old 31st May 2012, 05:27 PM   #1518
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Old 2nd June 2012, 04:21 PM   #1519
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a little more detail...
Is this the final draft?
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Old 2nd June 2012, 04:26 PM   #1520
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OK, here's my idea for a way to have some really versatile boards for various F-5 configurations and different chassis. First thing is to review the current UMS (Universal Mounting Standard) which is attached here.

Now that's a lot of holes! but is it enough? apparently not, as we can't get the MOSFET/Diodes far enough apart to avoid angst among the builders. However we have to be careful, if we get them too far apart, then they'll work in the 400mm deep chassis but not in the 300mm deep chassis.

Also, you're thinking that the 300mm deep chassis is too small for any type of Turbo F-5. But how about making two 300mm deep monoblocks? That would work for some iterations so we have to make that possible!

And 5U x 400 monoblocks for the most outrageous v3 versions. But for some versions a single 5U x 400 chassis with 2 ch should do it.

Well to start with how about we add yet 2 more holes on each side of the UMS Standard, spaced 40mm from the existing holes two holes on the extreme ends. So instead of six MOSFETS or diodes across, there would be 8.

To be continued..
Or is this the final draft?
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