Pass X150 Where does it sit in the overall line up ??

[Old'n'Cranky]

So, the X150 (without cyclops meter), I want to know all about it.

Where does it sit in the layout of Pass amps ?
Whats the consensus re its sound character ?
Rough idea of build dates vs serial number ?
Any info on bias setting ?
Modifications, etc and so on....

Thanks all....

[Zen Mod]

some things you can read in xa_paper.pdf at PL site , some things you can/must ask them

anyway - worth mentioning - there is Official PL Disposal Facility , if you became tired of these lousy amps

[Zen Mod]

dunno are these pdfs still on PL site , after reorganization , so here they are

[Nelson Pass]

Originally Posted by Old'n'Cranky

Where does it sit in the layout of Pass amps ?

Pretty much at the bottom of the X series, not to say that it isn't perfectly
serviceable.

[Old'n'Cranky]

From what I understand though, being at 'the bottom' only really refers to the power output, where as the sound 'signature' stays the same through that models range.

Is that correct ?

If so, how would one describe the sound (or lack off) of the X series vs maybe something a bit latter ?

Guess what i want to know, is, if the chance came up to buy an X150, would i be mad NOT to grab it ??????

[Old'n'Cranky]

Hmm, cant edit above post...

I can't seem to find any info as to whether the x150 has any sort of speaker protection.....
turn on delay, shut down anti thump, dc, clipping, over heat...

Any info on this people ????

[Zen Mod]

Originally Posted by Old'n'Cranky

From what I understand though, being at 'the bottom' only really refers to the power output, where as the sound 'signature' stays the same through that models range.

Is that correct ?

If so, how would one describe the sound (or lack off) of the X series vs maybe something a bit latter ?

Guess what i want to know, is, if the chance came up to buy an X150, would i be mad NOT to grab it ??????

don't be picky ; keep old one , grab new one too

Originally Posted by Old'n'Cranky

Hmm, cant edit above post...

I can't seem to find any info as to whether the x150 has any sort of speaker protection.....
turn on delay, shut down anti thump, dc, clipping, over heat...

Any info on this people ????

overheat yes , other protection(s) aren't needed with these amps

[Old'n'Cranky]

LOL, Oh ZM.
if i had that sorta money. well, why stop at two ?

so theres no 'strange' output swings as the supply rails collapse on power off ?

All the questions are because I cant afford to buy one, then find out a later one is far superior..
Its only something i can do once...
and not being near the seller, I cant just go there and have a listen..
A big dollar item, sight unheard is a very hard decision.........

[Zen Mod]

you can't go wrong with either of them ; same philosophy , same approach - just few years of difference between them .
as with everything in life - there is a difference but which one is better can be easily just matter of personal preference
don't bother to read what regular Greedy Boy in Papaland can tell - they're all chasing each new Papamp as best thing after bread , claiming that that one will be last they gonna build ( at least in this year)

buy cheaper one , give 20% of difference for music , 20% to buy some parts ;
listen that cheaper one , enjoy in music and build your own Papamp , having fun in learning and building

and yes - use best speakers you can buy/make

[Old'n'Cranky]

Mmm yes.
Thank you 'Papa' and ZM..
Rare to find a voice of reason and reality these days.

As much as i want this amp, I think my money would be better spent on speakers...