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Old 27th December 2011, 05:47 PM   #1
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Default Interconnects for xa60.5 and xp20 ,

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Any recommendation for interconnects cable for the XA60.5 and XP20?
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Yes. Take 2- 38 to 40 gauge enameled magnet wires and wrap them around a 2 to 3 mm O.D. PTFE tubing in a crossing pattern. They should cross every 1 to 1.25 inches. Spray assembly with urathane paint. Solder wire to light weight RCA connectors, like Eichman Silver Bullets or even cheap plastic RCAs. Gold plated, if possible. Use 2% silver solder. Takes about 3-5 hours the first time you build them.

Be ready to be amazed. Oh, and they are fragile, so be careful with them.

If you need shielded wire, forget about this recipe.
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Amen! You think he was playing a joke, until you heard them! Wow!
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You certainly could make balanced versions with XLR's.

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I'm making XLRs with 0,1mm CuAg wire - just 3 wires , through comb-like plastic tube .

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Yes. Take 2- 38 to 40 gauge enameled magnet wires and wrap them around a 2 to 3 mm O.D. PTFE tubing in a crossing pattern. They should cross every 1 to 1.25 inches. Spray assembly with urathane paint. Solder wire to light weight RCA connectors, like Eichman Silver Bullets or even cheap plastic RCAs. Gold plated, if possible. Use 2% silver solder. Takes about 3-5 hours the first time you build them.

Be ready to be amazed. Oh, and they are fragile, so be careful with them.

If you need shielded wire, forget about this recipe.
Even some www ETFE 30 AWG does the job, perhaps less delicate but still works better than about any commercials.

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Amen! You think he was playing a joke, until you heard them! Wow!
True. A good wire can be the Van Den Hull MC150 to do this too. The single strand version.

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I'm making XLRs with 0,1mm CuAg wire - just 3 wires , through comb-like plastic tube .

peachy .....
Rocks The foils could be a nice upgrade. They still sell them at Vacuum State ...

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Even some www ETFE 30 AWG does the job
I made a set with 3- 30 gauge wire wrap wire braided, which sounds very good, but the 40 AWG enameled wire is better. Just one set from the CDP to the preamp changed everything. Left me thinking if we should use this wire in amps also. I ordered the silver ribbon from Vaccum State Electronics. Will use it in the Zen 9 inputs and of course in VSE's ultimate IC.

Anyway, sorry eliasGR, were you looking for a commercial interconnect or a DIY interconnect (IC)? Balance or unbalance? How long a distance from preamp to amp? Do you have a shielding requirement? What IC have you seen or heard that you like? What IC are you using now?
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I made a set with 3- 30 gauge wire wrap wire braided, which sounds very good, but the 40 AWG enameled wire is better. Just one set from the CDP to the preamp changed everything. Left me thinking if we should use this wire in amps also. I ordered the silver ribbon from Vaccum State Electronics. Will use it in the Zen 9 inputs and of course in VSE's ultimate IC.
That is why VSE silver foils are even superior sounding 3 mm large x 0,05mm thickness ( 5/100mm )

One can also try with 0,07mm copper foil. Works very well too.

Foils need to be damped (tighlty secured mechanically) and protected from oxidation to achieve long lasting results.

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That is why VSE silver foils are even superior sounding 3 mm large x 0,05mm thickness ( 5/100mm )

One can also try with 0,07mm copper foil. Works very well too.

Foils need to be damped (tighlty secured mechanically) and protected from oxidation to achieve long lasting results.

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Now I play with interconnects Kimber KS1016 -balance, any opinions about the interconnect Empirical? is beter than Kimber KS1016?
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