Between F4 and F5

Joshua_G · 18th September 2011, 09:26 PM

Did anyone compare those two amps directly, or can comment about the sound quality difference between the two?

Zen Mod · 18th September 2011, 09:41 PM

F5 (almost ) doesn't need preamp ;

F4 ( being follower , without voltage gain ) demands serious preamp ( decent voltage swing ) ;

that means that you only can compare F5 vs. preamp+F4

Dufus · 18th September 2011, 10:00 PM

F5 very fast and detailed,bit dry.
F4 more ''Musical'' can sound great with tube preamp.

Joshua_G · 18th September 2011, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen Mod

F5 (almost ) doesn't need preamp ;

F4 ( being follower , without voltage gain ) demands serious preamp ( decent voltage swing ) ;

that means that you only can compare F5 vs. preamp+F4

Okay than, any comparison between F5 and F4+pre?

P.S.,
When dealing with power amp, a pre-amp is given (in my mind and in my experience).

Joshua_G · 18th September 2011, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dufus

F5 very fast and detailed,bit dry.
F4 more ''Musical'' can sound great with tube preamp.

Thank you very much.
Your phrase {more "musical"} tells me all I wanted to hear.
Also, I'm using a tube pre-amp anyhow, and it isn't going to be changed.

Joshua_G · 18th September 2011, 10:09 PM

P.S.,
I intend to use either one (F4 or F5) in a balanced-bridged mono configuration.
Right no my vote is for F4.

Dufus · 18th September 2011, 10:22 PM

F4 listening impressions

Very nice description here

Joshua_G · 18th September 2011, 10:35 PM

Thanks.

zygibajt · 18th September 2011, 11:21 PM

The only thing that stops me from building F5 is that every one is building one and everyone is raving about it and telling how good it is. Same with wines at my local wine store, if everyone is buying one I know it will not be good for me and will not satisfy me. Really I could have built F5 three times already by now if not the thing that everybody is building it and saying it is great amp. Having built Aleph 4, Aleph 3 and a couple of zens amps I bet with proper speakers F3 or F4 beats F5 hands down.

Assesears · 19th September 2011, 07:18 PM

My mate built the F5, I've borrowed it a few times, but for me F4 & pumpkin is very hard to beat very musical.

18th September 2011, 09:26 PM	#1
Joshua_G diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Israel	Between F4 and F5 Did anyone compare those two amps directly, or can comment about the sound quality difference between the two?

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Zen Mod diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain	F5 (almost ) doesn't need preamp ; F4 ( being follower , without voltage gain ) demands serious preamp ( decent voltage swing ) ; that means that you only can compare F5 vs. preamp+F4 __________________ my Papa is smarter than your Nelson ! tnx to clean thread ; Cook Book ; PSM LS Cook Book ; Baby Diyaudio FORUM ; BAF Forum & Gallery;I'm dumb

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18th September 2011, 10:00 PM	#3
Dufus diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2011	F5 very fast and detailed,bit dry. F4 more ''Musical'' can sound great with tube preamp.

18th September 2011, 10:09 PM	#6
Joshua_G diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Israel	P.S., I intend to use either one (F4 or F5) in a balanced-bridged mono configuration. Right no my vote is for F4.

18th September 2011, 10:22 PM	#7
Dufus diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2011	F4 listening impressions Very nice description here

18th September 2011, 10:35 PM	#8
Joshua_G diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Israel	Thanks.

18th September 2011, 11:21 PM	#9
zygibajt diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wroclaw	The only thing that stops me from building F5 is that every one is building one and everyone is raving about it and telling how good it is. Same with wines at my local wine store, if everyone is buying one I know it will not be good for me and will not satisfy me. Really I could have built F5 three times already by now if not the thing that everybody is building it and saying it is great amp. Having built Aleph 4, Aleph 3 and a couple of zens amps I bet with proper speakers F3 or F4 beats F5 hands down.

19th September 2011, 07:18 PM	#10
Assesears diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Newcastle	My mate built the F5, I've borrowed it a few times, but for me F4 & pumpkin is very hard to beat very musical.

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