Burning Amp BA-3

Hi Albert,

Thank you for clarifying.....

Do you know why Nelson counts R6+R7/R5 means he has a greater amplification contribution of the first stage and why he also doubles the value of 333/22=15 means 30.
Taken the divisions as truth we even should have an amplification of 60!

Gerd

Well, the two halves are in parallel.
So the two devices have the similar 100 ohm load in parallel but both amplified, so nelson gives: 'Drain load resistors R6 plus R7 divided by R5' = 200/100 =2. (Stupid me would think late at night that parallel gives 50 ohms :confused:). Point is: they are 'used as unity gain DC level shifters', thus the DC shifts and the amplification is (roughly) 1 (being unity) but in fact a little bit higher. Output goes same way to give 15x. 2x15=30! Presto.
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Well, the two halves are in parallel.
So the two devices have the similar 100 ohm load in parallel but both amplified, so nelson gives: 'Drain load resistors R6 plus R7 divided by R5' = 200/100 =2. (Stupid me would think late at night that parallel gives 50 ohms :confused:). Point is: they are 'used as unity gain DC level shifters', thus the DC shifts and the amplification is (roughly) 1 (being unity) but in fact a little bit higher. Output goes same way to give 15x. 2x15=30! Presto.
:)

I think you have it correct I changed R5 to 50 ohms and the output was about unity. :)
 
Good.
Thinking about it again:
I should have added: the 100 ohms R5 gets twice the current from both Q1 and Q2, , this way the 'degeneration or feedback' gets twice as high a voltage; this is equal to that on both R6 and R7.
I'm sure ZM is a better explainer, but I understand he is now out burning a lot of money :rolleyes:
albert
 
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after I could manage k2 to zero with the left channel, I did not succeed with the next channel, curious behavior, turning P3 around and around

btw it was not complicated or dangerous..... watching the two multimeters of bias and offset

I could not get k2 down, and when I got k2 down a little k4 was growing:eek: ,he,he.

normally both are correlated .....

I changed the output pair of Toshibas, no change. I suppose the mismatched j-Fets are the culprit....

interesting journey....:)
 
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BA-3 Testing

I also did some distortion testing and could get a THD of .0041, effectively removing all the even order components just leaving the odd. Once you find the Null you can just rock the pot back and forth to watch the spectrum change. FUN!

I’m using ARTA and the Cordell Distortion Magnifier and it works great!

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Doesn't the F4 need a 20V swing. Generg, you substituted different cap for 10 uf, you think i could get away with 4.7uF since Nelson says its not even necessary?

Hi buzzforb,

You are right 30x may be good for people that have not very efficient speakers, let us say 84-86 db/1W.

But I have changed to lowther to be the next years with first watt adventure on the right side.
I even have nearly sufficient sound with the cd-player and the source follower alone, but of course when my friends come they want to hear very loud.....
Otherwise they would say you are working now 2 and a half year with your amps and that is all what is coming out......?

Of course I would try 4,7 uF, some people say you have to go to 2 Hz because of the phase shift......... My Tiny open baffle stops at 65 Hz at the moment.... Nevertheless I enjoy and still hesitate to build a sub.

Gerd
 
I will try to assemble this weekend. Then will have something to compare. I too have FR drivers, but with BA output, lesser speakers are no problem. THe balanced version Nelson will unveil at BA will have plenty of power. Did you ever build F5? what where your impressions of it?