Matching IRF610's

TomT · 12th January 2002, 09:48 PM

Here's a simple method I use for matching IRF610's used in the balzen preamp.
The link is: http://www.geocities.com/zipper10000...31matching.jpg
Hopefully the tl431 isn't to exotic. The data sheets can be found on the web at on-semi, TI and Zetex.
The tl431 part has always been a favorite part of mine over the years.

Thanks
Tom

rtirion · 12th January 2002, 11:56 PM

Sorry to say the link isn't working
Reply I get is "This page is not available"

Regards

AudioFreak · 13th January 2002, 03:53 AM

try this.........

goto http://www.geocities.com/zipper1000000/schematic/ then click on the link to tl431matching.jpg

TomT · 13th January 2002, 05:10 AM

Thank-you Audio Freak.

Sorry about the link. Just joined DIYaudio.
Trying to these web things working.

Tom

promitheus · 14th January 2002, 06:46 PM

it´s a very good idea. Does this zener always have 2.5 V reference voltage ?

TomT · 15th January 2002, 09:57 AM

The Zetex part numbers are:
ZR431 is the 2.5V
ZR243 is the 1.24V

The On-Semi and T.I. part numbers are:
TL431 is the 2.5V
TLV431 is the 1.24V

See the web sites for the data sheets.
I believe the voltage references are band-gap types.

I have also used the circuit to match npn transistors and n-channel jfets. When using the circuit with n-channel jfets a resistor or diodes must be placed between the source of the jfet and the reference pin to keep the voltage greater than zero between the cathode and reference pins on the 431 part.
Also have used the circuit as a current source in amplifiers.
Tom

promitheus · 15th January 2002, 02:01 PM

This means the ref voltage is always constant. so we can measure the Vgs of the fets. how can someone hook up a irf9610 to measure? And how can someone measure bigger FETS like IRFP240 at 1 amp?

GRollins · 15th January 2002, 03:02 PM

National Semiconductor has similar parts; the LM-336 series.
Bear in mind that the voltage will drift with temperature, but there's a fairly simple circuit you can build with some 1N914s (or other small diodes) to counteract the drift. Also, the adjust pin means just that--the voltage is approximately 2.5V, but may be slightly off due to manufacturing tolerances. You can include a compensation pot in the temperature correction circuit. Check the Nat. Semi. datasheets for details of the compensation circuit.

Grey

TomT · 16th January 2002, 03:49 AM

Sorry the tl431 circuit does not work with p-channel mosfets like the IRF9610. Here is and idea for matching the IRF9610 mosfet. Go to http://www.geocities.com/zipper1000000/schematic/
then click on the link to lm337match.jpg
I have not tried the tl431 circuit at large currents on power mosfets.
Tom

promitheus · 16th January 2002, 06:30 AM

also a very good idea.

12th January 2002, 09:48 PM	#1
TomT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central California	Matching IRF610's Here's a simple method I use for matching IRF610's used in the balzen preamp. The link is: http://www.geocities.com/zipper10000...31matching.jpg Hopefully the tl431 isn't to exotic. The data sheets can be found on the web at on-semi, TI and Zetex. The tl431 part has always been a favorite part of mine over the years. Thanks Tom

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12th January 2002, 11:56 PM	#2
rtirion diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2000	Sorry to say the link isn't working Reply I get is "This page is not available" Regards

13th January 2002, 03:53 AM	#3
AudioFreak Warp Engineer On Holiday Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Queensland, Australia	try this......... goto http://www.geocities.com/zipper1000000/schematic/ then click on the link to tl431matching.jpg

13th January 2002, 05:10 AM	#4
TomT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central California	Thank-you Audio Freak. Sorry about the link. Just joined DIYaudio. Trying to these web things working. Tom

14th January 2002, 06:46 PM	#5
promitheus diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Germany	it´s a very good idea. Does this zener always have 2.5 V reference voltage ?

15th January 2002, 09:57 AM	#6
TomT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central California	The Zetex part numbers are: ZR431 is the 2.5V ZR243 is the 1.24V The On-Semi and T.I. part numbers are: TL431 is the 2.5V TLV431 is the 1.24V See the web sites for the data sheets. I believe the voltage references are band-gap types. I have also used the circuit to match npn transistors and n-channel jfets. When using the circuit with n-channel jfets a resistor or diodes must be placed between the source of the jfet and the reference pin to keep the voltage greater than zero between the cathode and reference pins on the 431 part. Also have used the circuit as a current source in amplifiers. Tom

15th January 2002, 02:01 PM	#7
promitheus diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Germany	This means the ref voltage is always constant. so we can measure the Vgs of the fets. how can someone hook up a irf9610 to measure? And how can someone measure bigger FETS like IRFP240 at 1 amp?

15th January 2002, 03:02 PM	#8
GRollins diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Columbia, SC	National Semiconductor has similar parts; the LM-336 series. Bear in mind that the voltage will drift with temperature, but there's a fairly simple circuit you can build with some 1N914s (or other small diodes) to counteract the drift. Also, the adjust pin means just that--the voltage is approximately 2.5V, but may be slightly off due to manufacturing tolerances. You can include a compensation pot in the temperature correction circuit. Check the Nat. Semi. datasheets for details of the compensation circuit. Grey

16th January 2002, 03:49 AM	#9
TomT diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central California	Sorry the tl431 circuit does not work with p-channel mosfets like the IRF9610. Here is and idea for matching the IRF9610 mosfet. Go to http://www.geocities.com/zipper1000000/schematic/ then click on the link to lm337match.jpg I have not tried the tl431 circuit at large currents on power mosfets. Tom

16th January 2002, 06:30 AM	#10
promitheus diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Germany	also a very good idea.