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Old 26th January 2011, 12:44 PM   #1
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Hello everyone, this is my first 3D, I have a problem with my mini aleph, this is exactly the lack of input sensitivity;
Let me explain, I have created two integrated amplifiers in which the preamp section is based on a circuit fet in single-end type, with a gain of about 15 db, while the final section, is formed in the first a pair of mini aleph version in single end and the second is a card with Tripath TA2024 Class T;
during testing I noticed that the TA2024 amplifier generates a sound power much higher than the mini aleph;
from this I deduced that it is probably a matter of input sensitivity, because more or less power in the final game of the two systems are similar (9 + 9 watts for the TA2024 and 10 + 10 watts for the mini aleph), then wonder how I can correct this, thanks.
ps: I had decided to reduce the resistance value R1 (10K) and increase the value of the resistor R2 (100K), if this is correct, what are the values most appropriate to use?
thanks for your replies.

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Old 26th January 2011, 01:12 PM   #2
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Can you show us a schematic.
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Old 26th January 2011, 05:31 PM   #3
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Don't forget that the mini aleph is balanced. To get appropriate gain from a single ended connection, you need to ground the - input.
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Old 26th January 2011, 07:13 PM   #4
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Don't forget that the mini aleph is balanced. To get appropriate gain from a single ended connection, you need to ground the - input.
my mini aleph was built through the use PCB's produced by Brian's chipamp.com,,, I connected the input unbalanced directly on the pad's dedicated;
from what you say, I understand that I should connect the pad of the input (-) balanced on earth, right?
if not mistaken, this should not affect on increasing the power output, but only to ensure that they are not picked up noises from the outside, at least so it seems to me to understand by looking at the circuit,,problem that may arise, leaving the floating input (-)

help me please

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the input (-) balanced on earth
you want to connect (-) to signal ground, not earth ground, provide a picture or crude drawing to clarify.
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Old 27th January 2011, 12:51 AM   #6
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On Brian's boards, there are three input pads. Since you are using it single ended, just put in a wire jumper input "-" to input "ground" and you'll be good to go.
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Old 27th January 2011, 12:14 PM   #7
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ok I understand, but I can tell you now that the amp is playing very well, just to get a decent sound pressure on my 102db speakers, I have to turn the volume control more than 3 / 4, there is no presence hum or noise;
now I wonder what happens when I connect the signal (-) to ground? increases the gain? if not, how can I make the final section of the most sensitive input? thanks for your time, greetings.

p.s.:I apologize for my bad English, unfortunately, as an Italian I help with a simultaneous translator, so I do not know if it is expressed correctly.


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Old 27th January 2011, 01:02 PM   #8
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The gain should increase dramatically when you ground the neg input.

If you have changed the resistors at the input you have changed the global feedback network. Please return the resistors to their correct values as designed.

Have you looked at the original mini A thread?

Best, Bill

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Old 27th January 2011, 03:56 PM   #9
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Your words comforted me greatly!
I did not change the values of the input resistive network, I thought of it, but after reading your thoughts, I think you should solve my problem.
for now thanks and greetings to all
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