Mezmerize DCB1 Building Thread

AndrewT responded to my question about costs, but did not answer my question:

Can someone provide a ballpark estimate of the cost to build a Mermerizse B1?

Thanks,
Jim D


It's hard to give a decent estimate without knowing how you want to set it up. I'm going to throw out a wild guess of $250ish if you go bare bones (basic case, no custom front panel, no exotic parts, blue velvet pot, antek tranny). You could easily double or triple this price by upgrading some parts and going with a nicer enclosure.
 
AndrewT responded to my question about costs, but did not answer my question:

It's hard to give a decent estimate without knowing how you want to set it up. I'm going to throw out a wild guess of $250ish
I think you can build a cheap one for under $150.
The final price ballpark depends on what you have to pay for those 7relays and 4FETs.
 
Has anyone hotrod'ed the Mezmerize ?

I'm planning to hot rod mine. My understanding is the board is not optimized for it like the Hypno Blue, but it shouldn't be too hard to do. I was thinking of using a couple of 10,000uF off-board capacitors, a Mills 12W 10ohm resistor (also off board), and bumping up the MUR120 diodes to MUR820's. I'm not planning to run it too hot, so I'd just mount the MOSFETs to the chassis floor.

Here's a good link to a hot rod build using a regular hypno board.
 
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Sure, I have, Woodturner-Fran has. Of course these were all done with the older boards.

use 2-3 2W 20-30R panasonic resistors (narrow leads)

Put IRF's bolted to bigger heatsinks or chassis floor.

Second 100uf cap becomes small MKP type cap of .2 or .1uf, make sure it fits.
 
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A silly questions (Sorry if these questions are usually recurrent).

How big must be the dissipators for the IRFP240 and 9240?, these mosfets must be matched?. The 7812 needs a dissipator?.

Thanks

Hi / hola,

Do you need single heatsinks or dual heatsinks / necesitas disipadores individuales o para los dos mosfets?

Singles heatsinks: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&itemSeq=92394247&uq=634256597073549093

Dual heatsinks: http://es.farnell.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=150016


Saludos / cheers

Felipe
 
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How big must be the dissipators for the IRFP240 and 9240?, these mosfets must be matched?. The 7812 needs a dissipator?.
the easy answers first.
The 7812 does not need a heatsink if the transformer is <=15Vac and only has to supply current for two 12V relays.
I suspect that 5V relays may require a heatsink on the 7812, if the transformer >12Vac.

The mosFETs do not need to be matched. You need 4 in total. They can all be different. But, you must check the voltage across the gate source as it affects the set up of the CCS. If a very high Vgs mosFET were used in a low output voltage Shunt regulator, you may find that swapping in a lower Vgs mosFET may improve performance. At very low output voltages, the shunt mosFET must be replaced by a BJT to eliminate the high Vgs, inherent in a mosFET, from the circuit.

The Power dissipation of the mosFETs is determined by the CCS current chosen, by the transformer Vac chosen and by the Output voltage and Average Output current chosen.

These power dissipation conditions vary between normal operating conditions and various FAULT conditions. The worst case fault conditions do not require the regulator to properly power the client circuit and thus temperatures do not have to be optimum for good performance. You can use survivability temperatures for these extreme worst case fault conditions. I recommend much lower temperatures for normal operation.
These decisions on temperature and the four power determining factors in the previous paragraph will determine what size, if any, heatsink should be fitted to the various mosFETs.

You will gather from this response that no questions are stupid.
 
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