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Join Date: Jan 2010
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I am all pumped up for Aleph x . But I have small problem with Transformer. I have single primary, 60-0-60 800VA transformer and 70-0-70, 1000va trans former from one of my dead P.A. I am panning to use one side of 60-0-60 for each channel.(see diagram). Am I planning for disaster??
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: near the sea
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You won't get your 36V from the transformer you show. Plus, you don't need no bridges, 1 is sufficient, and you'll get around 83V symmetric PSU
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Join Date: Jan 2010
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(correction: Rectified voltage should be 84 and with virtual ground + -42 rail.)
Is 83v too high for Aleph amps or 800VA too low for that voltage to do class A operation? I am creating virtual ground by splitting filter caps(it will be few pairs of caps). By having virtual ground, am I introducing any unstabilities to amp? |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain
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you can do that same way as Quad does in his 606 , 909 and simillar amps - with two bjt net.
but - yes - you're chasing a disaster sell those xformers and buy adequate ones
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Upstate NY
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You'll end up with +/- 83V. (subtract the diode voltage drops.) Depending on the board you use, you may be able to get away with a virtual ground or none at all.
No such thing as too much voltage, only not enough heat sink. The AJ-X has some voltage limits, though. That said, search for the AXE-1-2 spreadsheet to look at your power and heat dissipation requirements. To be not current limited, bias @ 10A, you'll get 340W into 8R, dissipate close to 900W per channel, and a 3 KVA transformer per channel is recommended. Not to mention the fun of matching the 60 output devices needed to keep the junction temperatures reasonable.For either of those transformers, look at class ab. If you want an X amp, scale the X-100 up to 80V rails, although this isn't really a beginner project. It can be very similar to an AX with a push pull Class AB Source follower output stage. For a straight AX, look for different transformers, 18-20VAC. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Thank you for the reply. Quad 606 information was what I needed. This is DIY project after all. If I burn my amp and transformer , my wife will be happy at least. I will build PS first tonight and stress test with light bulbs(may of them) to see if it can hold its voltage.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain
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you must divide that split secondary to 2 independent secondaries
then go to route 606
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Upstate NY
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Are you going to use a refrigerated cooler to keep the output devices junction temperatures down?
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain
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good ole 6L6GC tossed in bucket of oil is waaaay smarter approach
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Illinois, USA
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One minor problem I see is that your supply is very unlikely to be a symmetrical +/-40V, since that depends on the capacitance on each side of the virtual ground being exactly equal all of the time.
The much bigger problem, as I see it, is that the virtual grounds from each half of the PS will see about 60VAC between them. That will cause all kinds of trouble, and especially if they ever were both connected to an external ground at the same time. Very dangerous. Jeremy |
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