Pass amps for my tannoy monitor golds?

simone_s · 24th September 2010, 08:50 PM

Hi,
I recently built a couple of 300 lt trapezoidal cabinets (with 4 ports of 100mm diameter, 250mm long ) for my 15" tannoy monitor golds.You can see few pictures here:
ImageShack Album - 3 images
The speakers should have this frequency response graph (the second one):
Tannoy Monitor Gold Cabinets

I am trying to find the best matching amps... I have a good friend that own an aleph P and two aleph 60, and I am really impressed (but i never listen to them paired with tannoy monitor golds).
The speakers should be around 95 db sensitivity, so i don't need too much power. I mostly listen to jazz and blues.
Would you go for an aleph p + aleph 60 or would you suggest something else?

kind regards
Simone

Zen Mod · 24th September 2010, 09:02 PM

either FW J2 , or a pair of FW F4 in balanced mode

depending of your preferences

cyclotronguy · 24th September 2010, 09:30 PM

Pass keeps several pair of Tannoy HPD in various cabinets at the factory.... they sound very good with everything from the XA30.5 to the X600.5's. Bass is spectacular.... not your typical one note.

Cyclotronguuy

simone_s · 25th September 2010, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyclotronguy

Pass keeps several pair of Tannoy HPD in various cabinets at the factory.... they sound very good with everything from the XA30.5 to the X600.5's. Bass is spectacular.... not your typical one note.

Cyclotronguuy

That's very interesting!... Now I am wondering what would suggest Mr. Pass...
I am also very curious about first watt amps...
Regards
Simone

Zen Mod · 25th September 2010, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyclotronguy

Pass keeps several pair of Tannoy HPD in various cabinets at the factory.... they sound very good with everything from the XA30.5 to the X600.5's. Bass is spectacular.... not your typical one note.

Cyclotronguuy

I knew that he forgot to wrap up something , along with Papa's Surprise amp ....

simone_s · 26th September 2010, 05:51 PM

how has an xa60.5 better than an aleph 60?
why should I go with a first watt instead?

thanks
Simone

Melon Head · 26th September 2010, 09:24 PM

Well, they are at least quite different.
Aleph 60 - Single ended circuit with aleph current source.
XA 60.5 - Balanced, super-symetric circuit, push-pull output stage with added current source in parrallel.

I suspect the XA60.5 are better at driving difficult loads (ie most speakers).
However if you have efficient speakers the Aleph circuit may be more appealing.

The F5 is very easy to build and is highly regarded.

Take your pick.

However if you want an XA60.5, you will have to buy one, or take a guess on how to build it, as the circuit has not been released.

chrismercurio · 29th September 2010, 04:31 PM

The new ArchNemesis my be a good candidate with it's SET like character and ~6w output. Unless of course your room is huge and you listen quite loud...

simone_s · 03:53 PM

HI,
I probably found a good deal on an aleph 5 + aleph p.
Another choice a bit more expensive is a first watt j2 + aleph p.
Any suggestion?
Cheers
Simone

cyclotronguy · 04:27 PM

The Aleph 5 was a great piece.... they never break. In 10 years I think I've seen one in for service.... likely it's still making "cool tunes and hot rooms"

When they were "new product" sonically they were at the top of their game. Nelsons circuits have gotten better and frankly components have gotten better; that said, in their day the A5 was sonic magic.

Aleph P, same deal; I just had one on the test bench and it's performance metrics are still quite nice.

J2, that's Nelson's call..... I am sure he would be happy to weigh in and discuss the merits of both pieces.

Cheers
Cyclotronguy

24th September 2010, 08:50 PM	#1
simone_s diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .	Pass amps for my tannoy monitor golds? Hi, I recently built a couple of 300 lt trapezoidal cabinets (with 4 ports of 100mm diameter, 250mm long ) for my 15" tannoy monitor golds.You can see few pictures here: ImageShack Album - 3 images The speakers should have this frequency response graph (the second one): Tannoy Monitor Gold Cabinets I am trying to find the best matching amps... I have a good friend that own an aleph P and two aleph 60, and I am really impressed (but i never listen to them paired with tannoy monitor golds). The speakers should be around 95 db sensitivity, so i don't need too much power. I mostly listen to jazz and blues. Would you go for an aleph p + aleph 60 or would you suggest something else? kind regards Simone

24th September 2010, 09:02 PM	#2
Zen Mod diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain	either FW J2 , or a pair of FW F4 in balanced mode depending of your preferences __________________ my Papa is smarter than your Nelson ! tnx to clean thread ; Cook Book ; PSM LS Cook Book ; Baby Diyaudio FORUM ; BAF Forum & Gallery;I'm dumb

24th September 2010, 09:30 PM	#3
cyclotronguy diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern California	Tannoy Pass keeps several pair of Tannoy HPD in various cabinets at the factory.... they sound very good with everything from the XA30.5 to the X600.5's. Bass is spectacular.... not your typical one note. Cyclotronguuy

26th September 2010, 05:51 PM	#6
simone_s diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .	comparing aleph with xa60.5 how has an xa60.5 better than an aleph 60? why should I go with a first watt instead? thanks Simone

26th September 2010, 09:24 PM	#7
Melon Head Formerly Thanh1973 Join Date: Nov 2006	Well, they are at least quite different. Aleph 60 - Single ended circuit with aleph current source. XA 60.5 - Balanced, super-symetric circuit, push-pull output stage with added current source in parrallel. I suspect the XA60.5 are better at driving difficult loads (ie most speakers). However if you have efficient speakers the Aleph circuit may be more appealing. The F5 is very easy to build and is highly regarded. Take your pick. However if you want an XA60.5, you will have to buy one, or take a guess on how to build it, as the circuit has not been released. __________________ "No, this sucker's electrical, but I need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity I need."


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29th September 2010, 04:31 PM	#8
chrismercurio diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Silicon Valley	The new ArchNemesis my be a good candidate with it's SET like character and ~6w output. Unless of course your room is huge and you listen quite loud...

30th September 2010, 03:47 PM	#9
simone_s diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: .	aleph 5 + aleph p HI, I probably found a good deal on an aleph 5 + aleph p. Another choice a bit more expensive is a first watt j2 + aleph p. Any suggestion? Cheers Simone Last edited by simone_s; 30th September 2010 at 03:53 PM.

30th September 2010, 04:25 PM	#10
cyclotronguy diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Northern California	A5 & Aleph P The Aleph 5 was a great piece.... they never break. In 10 years I think I've seen one in for service.... likely it's still making "cool tunes and hot rooms" When they were "new product" sonically they were at the top of their game. Nelsons circuits have gotten better and frankly components have gotten better; that said, in their day the A5 was sonic magic. Aleph P, same deal; I just had one on the test bench and it's performance metrics are still quite nice. J2, that's Nelson's call..... I am sure he would be happy to weigh in and discuss the merits of both pieces. Cheers Cyclotronguy Last edited by cyclotronguy; 30th September 2010 at 04:27 PM.

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