trademark laws

fritz39 · 4th November 2009, 06:21 PM

I've built an F5 amplifier and I'm working on a nicer chassis with a Front Panel Express front and back. My question is, can I put something
like "Pass F5 Class A" on the front? Would that be illegal or offend anyone?

Magura · 4th November 2009, 06:26 PM

If you mail Peter at PassLabs, a mix of threats, tears, and bad excuses, he just might be convinced to send you a couple of the PassDiy stickers. Those are real neat!

Magura

Floric · 4th November 2009, 06:41 PM

I don't know the american law. But in all european states you can do what you want. If you don't "bring it to the market"! Bringing to the market means to advertise it, to sell it or even to give it away to people that are unknown by you (if you give away more than 1-3 peaces).

I think the american law is almost the same.

Regards

Geek · 4th November 2009, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floric

I don't know the american law. But in all european states you can do what you want. If you don't "bring it to the market"! Bringing to the market means to advertise it, to sell it or even to give it away to people that are unknown by you (if you give away more than 1-3 peaces).

I think the american law is almost the same.

Regards

Must be fairly international then, because that's waht a Notary told me out here (only the # of pieces depended on the item... 2-way radios were 5, power amps were 3...)

Cheers!

Floric · 4th November 2009, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geek

Must be fairly international then, because that's waht a Notary told me out here (only the # of pieces depended on the item... 2-way radios were 5, power amps were 3...)

Cheers!

The idea of a trademark is really international (and almost independent of the political system). The number of pieces was only an estimation, take the term "a small number" here where "small" might depend on the value.

But in this case I would not hurt Mr. Pass' properties, no matter what the law says because we are here because of Nelsons geniality. And personally I think the passdiy logo is way more cool.

Have a nice day

Nelson Pass · 4th November 2009, 11:53 PM

Peter's not here any more, and Colin is busy elsewhere,
but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some stickers left.

In any case, we can make more.

Zen Mod · 5th November 2009, 12:17 AM

Papa said few times - write what you want , and put word "clone" .

dave_gerecke · 5th November 2009, 07:47 PM

I put in a vote for more 'PASSDIY' stickers!

Peace,

Dave

fritz39 · 6th November 2009, 07:32 PM

Thanks for the inputs. I know selling F5's wouldn't be cool, but I don't plan on
selling anything. I may just put something more generic on the front panel in
case I decide to build one of the other pa designs. I would like to reuse the case
if I make something else and I didn't realize this hobby was so expensive!

DaveM · 9th November 2009, 02:16 AM

Now you know why so many of the amps you see have wood cases.

4th November 2009, 06:21 PM	#1
fritz39 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maple Valley, WA	trademark laws I've built an F5 amplifier and I'm working on a nicer chassis with a Front Panel Express front and back. My question is, can I put something like "Pass F5 Class A" on the front? Would that be illegal or offend anyone?

4th November 2009, 06:26 PM	#2
Magura diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denmark, Viborg	If you mail Peter at PassLabs, a mix of threats, tears, and bad excuses, he just might be convinced to send you a couple of the PassDiy stickers. Those are real neat! Magura __________________ Everything is possible....to do the impossible just takes a little while longer.

5th November 2009, 12:17 AM	#7
Zen Mod diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ancient Batsch , behind Iron Curtain	Papa said few times - write what you want , and put word "clone" . __________________ my Papa is smarter than your Nelson ! (tnx to , clean** thread is here ; Cook Book is here ) EX YU DiYA forum is here : http://www.diyaudio.rs/

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4th November 2009, 06:41 PM	#3
Floric diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bavaria	I don't know the american law. But in all european states you can do what you want. If you don't "bring it to the market"! Bringing to the market means to advertise it, to sell it or even to give it away to people that are unknown by you (if you give away more than 1-3 peaces). I think the american law is almost the same. Regards

4th November 2009, 11:53 PM	#6
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	Peter's not here any more, and Colin is busy elsewhere, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some stickers left. In any case, we can make more.

5th November 2009, 07:47 PM	#8
dave_gerecke diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2007	I put in a vote for more 'PASSDIY' stickers! Peace, Dave

6th November 2009, 07:32 PM	#9
fritz39 diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maple Valley, WA	Thanks for the inputs. I know selling F5's wouldn't be cool, but I don't plan on selling anything. I may just put something more generic on the front panel in case I decide to build one of the other pa designs. I would like to reuse the case if I make something else and I didn't realize this hobby was so expensive!

9th November 2009, 02:16 AM	#10
DaveM diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vermont	Now you know why so many of the amps you see have wood cases.

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