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Old 22nd October 2009, 11:19 AM   #11
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.......to be able to get some 25/0/25 in 1kva
then buy 50-0, 50-0 1kVA.
take each output winding and half it to get four secondaries of 25-0.
Now you can parallel pairs of windings to get 1kVA 25-0, 25-0 with a rating of 5Adc continuous after applying the <=50&#37; de-rating for cool running duty.

Even better, rectify each winding and then parallel them to keep the heat dissipation in the rectifiers lower.
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Old 22nd October 2009, 12:26 PM   #12
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hi guys
great so i understand (i think)

now re the capacitance ,so are you saying that the 108,000mf per rail i have is not enough ? i thought it would be fine
jeez looks like im going to need a chassis just for the caps themselves

re the toroid i cant find 30,0,30vac toroids in over 500va so im stuck there
i do have 2x 1kva 40/0/40 toroids but the voltage is too high too use unless i could cut it down to 30/0/30 somehow

hi bill so all i have too do to increase the bias is leave r13 out ?

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I never considered trying that, it will probably change the % of current contribution from the current source. Try replacing with a 500K trimmer set at 220K then slowly increase it watching the source R voltage drop. Alternatively you could lower all the source Rs. Just be aware you are deviating from the design parameters.
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Old 22nd October 2009, 12:58 PM   #13
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id love to be able to get some 25/0/25 in 1kva for the project but there is just nothinbg available in that voltage over 500va in australia

your oppinions are aleays appreciated
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You can get any voltage and any va rating from this guy Manufacturer of toroidal TRANSFORMERS-Home page
And they are of top quality, and excellent price. I highly recommend them.
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Old 23rd October 2009, 12:04 AM   #14
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hi all
sorry andrew
i re read your post and you did make it clear

instead of buying more toroids what can i do to make my 1kva 40/0/40 toroids work ?

how can i drop the voltage down to 30/0/30
is there a reg i can make or buy that could handle the current or perhaps unwind some of the secondry,s (not my prefered option if possible)to get the voltage i want

ive got enough heatsink to just run the 40/0/40 voltage but this would mean running less bias
from what i understand it would sound better if i run a lower voltage and bias the hell out of it or am i way off here

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Old 23rd October 2009, 05:24 AM   #15
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how can i drop the voltage down to 30/0/30
You've been asking the same question for some time now; are you expecting a different answer? The simplest i.e. cheapest way to do this is via CRCRC type PSU. Just use big resistors. Or, in lieu of all that, you can use a variac.

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Old 23rd October 2009, 08:06 AM   #16
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Hi Slr,
open up the insulation around the secondary output leads.
Find out how many wires are used to obtain the 12.5A current rating.
Are they a bi-fillar 1.6mm diameter pair?

If so, then you have options that can retain the 1kVA rating AND get 30,0, 30-0 windings.
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Old 23rd October 2009, 07:36 PM   #17
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hi all
thanks andrewt
i will open her up and check it out tonight
it would be great if i could use them as the were very expensive

hi megaamp
i realise the simplest way may be the psu you suggested but i already have 2x aussie amps psu with 108,000mf each and they are very good
so i would be wasting money not using them

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Old 26th October 2009, 08:28 AM   #18
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hi guys
heres some pics of one of the toroids with its wrapping removed
i presume to lower the voltage from 40/0/40 to 30/0/30 i just have to unwind each secondary wire the same amount of turns untill i get the required voltage correct?

regards sheafer
oops forgot
the secondarys are single wire looks to be 2mm or more each
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Old 26th October 2009, 08:15 PM   #19
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2mm diameter wire is unusually thick for toroid windings.
It is just 3.1sq mm. That has a current density of ~4A/sq mm.
This density is a bit high.
What is the regulation of this 1kVA? 4&#37; or 4.5%.

At a current density of ~3A/sq mm you would expect ~3.5% regulation for 1kVA.

If you remove turns from this transformer you will reduce the VA rating, making the regulation even worse.
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Old 26th October 2009, 11:46 PM   #20
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hi andrew
the secondarys are made up of 2x 500va each
regulation is 5%
12.5 amp
wire dia is at least 2mm but that is going by eye the data sheet does not specify
brand is nuvotem talema 1kva 40/0/40 from rs components

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