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Old 4th September 2009, 09:56 PM   #111
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BTW, I have a batch of Sony 2SK82 and 2SJ28's coming in.

Does anyone know the pinouts on them?

if nothing else .....

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Old 4th September 2009, 10:45 PM   #112
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Pfff, pins gate and source, case is drain.

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Old 5th September 2009, 06:10 AM   #113
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Default JFET for headphones

You could possibly get away parallelling fewer small signal JFETs for a nice headphone amplifier. Because that first W then would be first mW, and the impedance in many cases 600 Ohms. But that might have been done already(?).

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PS. Maybe we all should stop posting. Nelson needs all his time to hand solder all these JFETs . The faster he gets it done, the faster we will hear about the result.
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You could possibly get away parallelling fewer small signal JFETs for a nice headphone amplifier. But that might have been done already(?).
For instance the P-amp with a 10-device Fairchild J271 JFET single ended output stage, published by Mr Rollins earlier this year.

Or build the Mini-Monster with a thousand and one JFETs by parallelling even more small signal JFETs for a nice 50W power amp.

The complementary types J103/K246 both handle 50V, have much lower capacitances, and are both active production items.
Easier to get and much cheaper, especially compared to the current going rate of the J74.
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For instance the P-amp with a 10-device Fairchild J271 JFET single ended output stage, published by Mr Rollins earlier this year.

Or build the Mini-Monster with a thousand and one JFETs by parallelling even more small signal JFETs for a nice 50W power amp.

The complementary types J103/K246 both handle 50V, have much lower capacitances, and are both active production items.
Easier to get and much cheaper, especially compared to the current going rate of the J74.
The transconductance of the J103/K246 is too low compared to k170/j74
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You would simply need more of them.

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Nelson, how about a 0.5kJ preamp or even just 1/4kJ?
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You could possibly get away parallelling fewer small signal JFETs for a nice headphone amplifier. Because that first W then would be first mW, and the impedance in many cases 600 Ohms. But that might have been done already(?).

PS. Maybe we all should stop posting. Nelson needs all his time to hand solder all these JFETs . The faster he gets it done, the faster we will hear about the result.
Second point first: Nelson really needed to buy a pick & place machine and a wave solder line anyway.

First point: I did something cruder that that a dozen years ago for a headphone amp to replace the one in my 1988-vintage CD player. The new design was a TL072 followed by a 2N3904 emitter follower with about 300 ohms Re, and the feedback loop taken from the emitter-resistor point. The +- 5V supply in the CD player meant the transistor was passing about 16 milliAmps, with a base current (guessing here) at about 100 microAmps. The darn thing worked surprisingly well, with better bass and inner detail than the previous, somewhat gross, 4556 headphone driver.

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1) There were no oscillations to be found, which was my main worry when jamming a cheap transistor inside an opamp feedback loop.
2) Some folks advocate running opamps in simulated class-A mode by running a resistor between the output and -Vcc. This circuit also runs the opamp in class-A, albeit at reduced output current, because the NPN needs continual base current if it's not to cut off.
3) The output impedance is absurdly low because the negative feedback around the opamp reduces the already minimal output Z of the emitter follower.
4) There is a definite current limitation on the output associated with the 300 ohm output resistor. If your load is 300 ohms, then you can expect to see only half the negative rail on the output swing, whereas the positive swing is +Vcc. Voltage division and all that. This isn't an issue with most headphones, since you'll be deaf before hitting the circuit's limits.

SPECULATION ALERT: I suspect the greater sense of ease may, may, have to do with requiring less current from the opamp and thus running into fewer class-AB thermal effects, while the output transistor is running class-A and thus has no signal-varying thermal effects
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For instance the P-amp with a 10-device Fairchild J271 JFET single ended output stage, published by Mr Rollins earlier this year.
Whereabout is that amp located? In the grey-area of diyaudio?
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