Sulzer Regulator for B1

Diomedian · 22nd May 2009, 06:29 PM

Hi all,

I've been building a B1, and I've decided to add a discrete voltage regulator in order to learn a bit. I've got enough space on my board for a Sulzer regulator like the one pictured here:

http://www.alw.audio.dsl.pipex.com/i...sulzer_sch.gif

The only problems I'm having is which pass transistor to use. The 2n3053 is no longer produced, and even when it was, it was in a to-39 package which isn't so easy to use on my board. The d44h11 as used in newer regulators of this type (like the Jung super-regulator) has a minimum hfe of 60, but the B1 is said to only draw 20mA or so. I'm a bit of a newb... does this mean the B1 doesn't draw enough current to allow a d44h11 to operate?

If this is the case, can anyone suggest an appropriate pass transistor?

thanks in advance,
-j

DougL · 22nd May 2009, 06:47 PM

If I understand your question, hfe used to be called beta, the transistor current gain. Ic = Beta * Ib
I do not see where this regulator has a min current requirement.
It may have a minimum requirement for hfe.

Diomedian · 23rd May 2009, 02:06 AM

Oh, I see. The Collector Cutoff Current of the d44h11 is 10uA, which is very small indeed. Am I correct in thinking the Collector Cutoff Current is the minimum current which can flow through the transistor when it is "on"? With a min hfe (or Beta as you said) of 60, this would mean that the base current could be as low as 0.17uA for this circuit to work (which should be the case)?

I guess I need to read more about how this circuit works. :-)

thanks,
-j

analog_sa · 23rd May 2009, 07:20 AM

These types of regulators work well at even very small load currents. Still, would not hurt to preload it with a resistor - i always do it in the belief that this improves transient performance.

It's a great idea to use a proper regulator with such a simple circuit. Will be interesting to know your assessment of the sound.

22nd May 2009, 06:29 PM	#1
Diomedian diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, N.S.	Sulzer Regulator for B1 Hi all, I've been building a B1, and I've decided to add a discrete voltage regulator in order to learn a bit. I've got enough space on my board for a Sulzer regulator like the one pictured here: http://www.alw.audio.dsl.pipex.com/i...sulzer_sch.gif The only problems I'm having is which pass transistor to use. The 2n3053 is no longer produced, and even when it was, it was in a to-39 package which isn't so easy to use on my board. The d44h11 as used in newer regulators of this type (like the Jung super-regulator) has a minimum hfe of 60, but the B1 is said to only draw 20mA or so. I'm a bit of a newb... does this mean the B1 doesn't draw enough current to allow a d44h11 to operate? If this is the case, can anyone suggest an appropriate pass transistor? thanks in advance, -j

22nd May 2009, 06:47 PM	#2
DougL diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Wheaton IL. Blog Entries: 25	If I understand your question, hfe used to be called beta, the transistor current gain. Ic = Beta * Ib I do not see where this regulator has a min current requirement. It may have a minimum requirement for hfe. __________________ Scienta sine ars nihil est - Science without Art is nothing. (Implies the converse as well) Mater tua criceta fuit, et pater tuo redoluit bacarum sambucus

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23rd May 2009, 02:06 AM	#3
Diomedian diyAudio Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, N.S.	Oh, I see. The Collector Cutoff Current of the d44h11 is 10uA, which is very small indeed. Am I correct in thinking the Collector Cutoff Current is the minimum current which can flow through the transistor when it is "on"? With a min hfe (or Beta as you said) of 60, this would mean that the base current could be as low as 0.17uA for this circuit to work (which should be the case)? I guess I need to read more about how this circuit works. :-) thanks, -j

23rd May 2009, 07:20 AM	#4
analog_sa diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sofia	These types of regulators work well at even very small load currents. Still, would not hurt to preload it with a resistor - i always do it in the belief that this improves transient performance. It's a great idea to use a proper regulator with such a simple circuit. Will be interesting to know your assessment of the sound.

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