Nelson.. what are your current favs?

trusound · 24th April 2009, 06:23 PM

not to sound to cheesy or corny... but I owe pretty much the most of my hifi sickness to both my father and Pass.. to make a long story short, my family was lower middle class.. and my father spent 15 years bulding a 2 channel room and during that time saved for years to buy a used S/500.. man I can remember the day that thing arrived and the many years that followed of sitting next to him listening to music..

fast foward to today.. and I am in the early stages of starting my own boutique loudspeaker company that specializes in making 1 of a kind pieces...

So my question is, since you have had such a huge inpact in my audio life.. what drivers are your current favs?

thank you
Randy

Nelson Pass · 25th April 2009, 05:44 PM

If you are talking about "regular" drivers, then I would say it's
the SEAS "Nextel coated" series W22, W18, and so on up to the
Crescendo tweeters. Take a look at the SR1's at www.passlabs.com

If you are talking about "full range" drivers, it's the Lowther PM5A
vs the Feastrex D9nf. I have them in open baffles with 15" woofers,
also OB. I haven't had the time lately to pursue comparisons beyond
this point on these two, but I think it will come down to taste.

A close contender is the PM4A, but the one I had used the older
whizzer - PM4A with the "rolled edge" whizzer might take the Lowther
prize. The PM6A comes in close enough, considering the much lower
price. All the Lowthers are the 16 ohm versions.

After these, it starts to go downhill for me, although there are many
fine drivers out there, and you know your taste may not be the same
as mine.

trusound · 27th April 2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nelson Pass
If you are talking about "regular" drivers, then I would say it's
the SEAS "Nextel coated" series W22, W18, and so on up to the
Crescendo tweeters. Take a look at the SR1's at www.passlabs.com

If you are talking about "full range" drivers, it's the Lowther PM5A
vs the Feastrex D9nf. I have them in open baffles with 15" woofers,
also OB. I haven't had the time lately to pursue comparisons beyond
this point on these two, but I think it will come down to taste.

A close contender is the PM4A, but the one I had used the older
whizzer - PM4A with the "rolled edge" whizzer might take the Lowther
prize. The PM6A comes in close enough, considering the much lower
price. All the Lowthers are the 16 ohm versions.

After these, it starts to go downhill for me, although there are many
fine drivers out there, and you know your taste may not be the same
as mine.

thanks for taking time to answer sir.... I'm currently building a set using the normal W22,W15,milleniums.. and agree both them and the nextels are great drivers

And future plans for a Lowther/Lambda set is already been talked about... I guess I'm heading in the right direction..

Thank you!!

Bill Fuss · 28th April 2009, 06:00 AM

Randy,
You've opened a great thread, and Mr. Pass has responded with his totally unassuming answers.
I guess I'm being pretty selfish asking these questions but I have thought of trying the FR driver direction but have been leary of the claims of some people talking as if the only true midrange is with FR. I have a system using Seas Excel/Millenium which is pretty much tunable in the Xover but I still wonder if I'm missing something. I've seen the PM5A in conversations on the forum but wonder if that's where I should start my journey. I am a retired person, naturally with limited income, but still am able to justify the expense because music is,and always has been a huge part of my life. Your opinions are important to me more than you might imagine.

Bill

trusound · 28th April 2009, 06:22 PM

Thanks Bill... yeah it's real cool when you get to have dialogue with an Icon....

in regards to the FR argument etc... All applications have their pros and cons... and it boils down to implementation... the coherency you get right out of the box going FR is addicting. But can be accomplished going the tradtional route.. it just takes time and effort..

Here is a link to my thread in regards to my SEAS build... maybe it will give you some inspiration...

Current Project "The Narrows"

Dansk · 2nd May 2009, 10:52 AM

Having the profilename "Dansk", which is danish for "danish", I feel somehow obliged to ask:
- Now, what's wrong with the Scanspeak-units???

Nelson Pass · 2nd May 2009, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dansk
Having the profilename "Dansk", which is danish for "danish", I feel somehow obliged to ask:
- Now, what's wrong with the Scanspeak-units???

I don't know. Are they better than the SEAS drivers?

Bill Fuss · 2nd May 2009, 10:53 PM

They both make fine drivers, it's all in the implementation. I built a couple of Lynn Olson's ME2s a few years back that use the SS 2905s I think, great midrange and very fine top end. The Seas Excel/Millenium are every bit as pleasurable but are extremely touchy to cross over. Never the less, the Seas are my favorites right now.
I still would like someone to recommend a FR driver to give me a taste of the single driver magic, if that's the right description. I listen mostly to all kinds of jazz if that would influence a possible recommendation.

Bill

Dansk · 2nd May 2009, 10:54 PM

Offcourse they are. They're danish!!!

-Well, actually (being serious) I believe the Revelators are better than the Seas-units.

AuroraB · 2nd May 2009, 11:03 PM

Chauvinist!

24th April 2009, 06:23 PM	#1
trusound diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Missouri	Nelson.. what are your current favs? not to sound to cheesy or corny... but I owe pretty much the most of my hifi sickness to both my father and Pass.. to make a long story short, my family was lower middle class.. and my father spent 15 years bulding a 2 channel room and during that time saved for years to buy a used S/500.. man I can remember the day that thing arrived and the many years that followed of sitting next to him listening to music.. fast foward to today.. and I am in the early stages of starting my own boutique loudspeaker company that specializes in making 1 of a kind pieces... So my question is, since you have had such a huge inpact in my audio life.. what drivers are your current favs? thank you Randy

2nd May 2009, 10:52 AM	#6
Dansk diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2008	Scanspeak Having the profilename "Dansk", which is danish for "danish", I feel somehow obliged to ask: - Now, what's wrong with the Scanspeak-units???

2nd May 2009, 11:03 PM	#10
AuroraB diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Norway, -north of the moral circle..	Chauvinist! __________________ While the Lie leapt from Bagdad to Constantinopel, the Truth was still looking for it's sandals!

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25th April 2009, 05:44 PM	#2
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	If you are talking about "regular" drivers, then I would say it's the SEAS "Nextel coated" series W22, W18, and so on up to the Crescendo tweeters. Take a look at the SR1's at www.passlabs.com If you are talking about "full range" drivers, it's the Lowther PM5A vs the Feastrex D9nf. I have them in open baffles with 15" woofers, also OB. I haven't had the time lately to pursue comparisons beyond this point on these two, but I think it will come down to taste. A close contender is the PM4A, but the one I had used the older whizzer - PM4A with the "rolled edge" whizzer might take the Lowther prize. The PM6A comes in close enough, considering the much lower price. All the Lowthers are the 16 ohm versions. After these, it starts to go downhill for me, although there are many fine drivers out there, and you know your taste may not be the same as mine.

28th April 2009, 06:00 AM	#4
Bill Fuss RIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Central Florida	Randy, You've opened a great thread, and Mr. Pass has responded with his totally unassuming answers. I guess I'm being pretty selfish asking these questions but I have thought of trying the FR driver direction but have been leary of the claims of some people talking as if the only true midrange is with FR. I have a system using Seas Excel/Millenium which is pretty much tunable in the Xover but I still wonder if I'm missing something. I've seen the PM5A in conversations on the forum but wonder if that's where I should start my journey. I am a retired person, naturally with limited income, but still am able to justify the expense because music is,and always has been a huge part of my life. Your opinions are important to me more than you might imagine. Bill

28th April 2009, 06:22 PM	#5
trusound diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Missouri	Thanks Bill... yeah it's real cool when you get to have dialogue with an Icon.... in regards to the FR argument etc... All applications have their pros and cons... and it boils down to implementation... the coherency you get right out of the box going FR is addicting. But can be accomplished going the tradtional route.. it just takes time and effort.. Here is a link to my thread in regards to my SEAS build... maybe it will give you some inspiration... Current Project "The Narrows"

2nd May 2009, 10:53 PM	#8
Bill Fuss RIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Central Florida	They both make fine drivers, it's all in the implementation. I built a couple of Lynn Olson's ME2s a few years back that use the SS 2905s I think, great midrange and very fine top end. The Seas Excel/Millenium are every bit as pleasurable but are extremely touchy to cross over. Never the less, the Seas are my favorites right now. I still would like someone to recommend a FR driver to give me a taste of the single driver magic, if that's the right description. I listen mostly to all kinds of jazz if that would influence a possible recommendation. Bill

2nd May 2009, 10:54 PM	#9
Dansk diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2008	Offcourse they are. They're danish!!! -Well, actually (being serious) I believe the Revelators are better than the Seas-units.

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