source caps for aleph 1.7

freakyone · 17th February 2009, 07:45 PM

Hello

Where does one source 10uf blackgate N series caps from
for the AP1.7, seems the cheapest option.
Parts connection no longer stock these

Cheers
Dan

Nelson Pass · 17th February 2009, 09:07 PM

Try the Elna silk caps from Digikey.

freakyone · 17th February 2009, 09:48 PM

Thanks Nelson!

Cheers, Ill give them a try.

vpharris · 18th February 2009, 12:04 AM

The great thing about those caps is that they "can be used to relieve the music’s vibration energy, to decrease the peak feeling sound at high compass..."

I'm not aware of any other capacitors that do that.

Straight from the Digikey catalog (but I'm guessing those are Elna's words).

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Nelson Pass · 18th February 2009, 12:12 AM

Yes, with prose like that, how bad could they be?

twitchie · 18th February 2009, 03:13 AM

The Elna's only go as high as 35V, what voltage do the caps see in the AP1.7? Is the 60V split?

Praudio · 18th February 2009, 04:00 AM

Have a look here:
https://www.hndme.com/productcart/pc...&idCategory=13

Pierre

spzzzzkt · 18th February 2009, 08:25 AM

nice to see hndme.com are now stocking the 220uf/16V silmic II's

$100US minimum for OS orders is kinda ugly however.

freakyone · 12th March 2009, 01:29 AM

Hello All!

Well Ive received the silmic II's, now its got me thinking.

being an Electrolytic, does it matter which end (negetive or positive) goes into the circuit of the Ap1.7, Im thinking it doesnt matter, but...
also is it recommended bypassing these.

Cheers
Also being 35v ones they are even smaller than BG N.
Makes my board look wimpy

twitchie · 12th March 2009, 03:29 AM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I hope you don't plan on playing "Pop goes the weasel" as your first song with those caps.

The input voltage is 60V on this one (AP1.7 right?) and in Nelson's article - Balanced Zen Line Stage, he calls for P5593-ND for C103-106, which is a 10uF/100V cap

It would be a shame to see those nice Elna's go up in smoke.

17th February 2009, 07:45 PM	#1
freakyone diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	source caps for aleph 1.7 Hello Where does one source 10uf blackgate N series caps from for the AP1.7, seems the cheapest option. Parts connection no longer stock these Cheers Dan

18th February 2009, 12:04 AM	#4
vpharris diyAudio Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia	The great thing about those caps is that they "can be used to relieve the music’s vibration energy, to decrease the peak feeling sound at high compass..." I'm not aware of any other capacitors that do that. Straight from the Digikey catalog (but I'm guessing those are Elna's words). Sorry, I couldn't resist. __________________ Vince Harris

18th February 2009, 04:00 AM	#7
Praudio diyAudio Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada	Have a look here: https://www.hndme.com/productcart/pc...&idCategory=13 Pierre __________________ Praudio

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17th February 2009, 09:07 PM	#2
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	Try the Elna silk caps from Digikey.

17th February 2009, 09:48 PM	#3
freakyone diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	Thanks Nelson! Cheers, Ill give them a try.

18th February 2009, 12:12 AM	#5
Nelson Pass The one and only Join Date: Mar 2001	Yes, with prose like that, how bad could they be?

18th February 2009, 03:13 AM	#6
twitchie diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada	The Elna's only go as high as 35V, what voltage do the caps see in the AP1.7? Is the 60V split?

18th February 2009, 08:25 AM	#8
spzzzzkt diyAudio Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne	nice to see hndme.com are now stocking the 220uf/16V silmic II's $100US minimum for OS orders is kinda ugly however.

12th March 2009, 01:29 AM	#9
freakyone diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2005	Hello All! Well Ive received the silmic II's, now its got me thinking. being an Electrolytic, does it matter which end (negetive or positive) goes into the circuit of the Ap1.7, Im thinking it doesnt matter, but... also is it recommended bypassing these. Cheers Also being 35v ones they are even smaller than BG N. Makes my board look wimpy

12th March 2009, 03:29 AM	#10
twitchie diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada	Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I hope you don't plan on playing "Pop goes the weasel" as your first song with those caps. The input voltage is 60V on this one (AP1.7 right?) and in Nelson's article - Balanced Zen Line Stage, he calls for P5593-ND for C103-106, which is a 10uF/100V cap It would be a shame to see those nice Elna's go up in smoke.

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