Aleph internal wiring choices?

dantwomey · 17th April 2003, 01:11 AM

Referring to Kristijan's drawing above and Nelson's suggestion of "better connectors and wire" in "Top ten ways to a better Aleph?" (Top ten ways to a better Aleph?) I have two questions.

In Kristijan's drawing one end of the inputs, both RCA and XLR, is tied to ground on the PCB and the other end is floating. This gives me the impression of some sort of shielded cable. Is this true? And the answer to this question kind of leads into the next question.

Choosing from the Percy Audio site what would my fellow forum members suggest as a good upgraded wire?

Regards,
Dan

JOE DIRT® · 17th April 2003, 01:52 AM

I would use sheilded cable in anything over an inch long..... the jumper can be a simple hook up wire...as always keep any power wires away from the signal...hope this helps

Cheers!!The DIRT®

dantwomey · 17th April 2003, 01:59 AM

I'm looking through the aforementioned Percy Audio's interconnect wire selection for the inputs. I see where he carries alot of shielded interconnect wire. Also, I'm looking at some of the pure silver "chassis" wire for the outputs.

Regards,
Dan

Peter Daniel · 17th April 2003, 02:41 AM

I like to use Kimber TCSS 19ga wire. It is very user friendly and it sounds totally differend from silver plated copper stranded wire, it's very smooth and laid back, while plated copper has more edge.

Cardas wire might be good choice too, but it's enameled and solder pot is almost required to terminate it.

I used solid silver wire in my gainclone, but came to conclusion that it's too smooth and lacking in bass.

I usually use 19ga. fo signal and 14 ga for power wires. I don't think you need a shield. I never use shielded wire, the chassiss works as shield anyway

If you can find solid core copper wire, it may be actually good and cheap solution.

Duck-Twacy · 17th April 2003, 08:25 PM

I'm also still in doubt what best to use for the internal wiring of my Aleph5. eg for connecting the mosfets (p2p).

Some choices:

- 1.5 mm silverwire (15 awg), 99.97% pure from intertechnik , costing me 70 euro for 2 meters
- 0.65 mm OFC (22 awg) in Teflon (OTA cable from 47lab) costing 7 euro/meter. However is this thick enough?? I could use 2 twisted.
- 1.0 mm crystal silverwire (18 awg) vandenHul mcs1000, probably 100 euro/meter
- 2.5 mm2 plain copperwire (13 awg) 1 euro/meter

The Kimber wire sounds also interresting, but I don't think its sold around here.

Tazzy · 18th April 2003, 05:02 AM

Studio107.nl is a kimber reseller

Duck-Twacy · 18th April 2003, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tazzy
Studio107.nl is a kimber reseller

Of course I know Kimber (and where its sold), but I never heard of Kimber TCSS 19ga wire. I only know the speakerwires, interlinks, powercords and so on.

Tazzy · 18th April 2003, 07:47 AM

BTW where do you live in The Hague?
I live on erasmusweg near leyweg

uli · 18th April 2003, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Duck-Twacy

Of course I know Kimber (and where its sold), but I never heard of Kimber TCSS 19ga wire. I only know the speakerwires, interlinks, powercords and so on.

www.partsconnexion.com

Uli

uli · 18th April 2003, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dantwomey

Dan

I would STRONGLY suggest connecting the chassis to earth!!!

Uli

17th April 2003, 01:11 AM	#1
dantwomey diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada	Aleph internal wiring choices? Referring to Kristijan's drawing above and Nelson's suggestion of "better connectors and wire" in "Top ten ways to a better Aleph?" (Top ten ways to a better Aleph?) I have two questions. In Kristijan's drawing one end of the inputs, both RCA and XLR, is tied to ground on the PCB and the other end is floating. This gives me the impression of some sort of shielded cable. Is this true? And the answer to this question kind of leads into the next question. Choosing from the Percy Audio site what would my fellow forum members suggest as a good upgraded wire? Regards, Dan

17th April 2003, 02:41 AM	#4
Peter Daniel diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada	I like to use Kimber TCSS 19ga wire. It is very user friendly and it sounds totally differend from silver plated copper stranded wire, it's very smooth and laid back, while plated copper has more edge. Cardas wire might be good choice too, but it's enameled and solder pot is almost required to terminate it. I used solid silver wire in my gainclone, but came to conclusion that it's too smooth and lacking in bass. I usually use 19ga. fo signal and 14 ga for power wires. I don't think you need a shield. I never use shielded wire, the chassiss works as shield anyway If you can find solid core copper wire, it may be actually good and cheap solution. __________________ www.audiosector.com “Do something really well. See how much time it takes. It might be a product, a work of art, who knows? Then give it away cheaply, just because you feel that it should not cost so much, even if it took a lot of time and expensive materials to make it.” - JC

17th April 2003, 08:25 PM	#5
Duck-Twacy diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holland, The Hague	I'm also still in doubt what best to use for the internal wiring of my Aleph5. eg for connecting the mosfets (p2p). Some choices: - 1.5 mm silverwire (15 awg), 99.97% pure from intertechnik , costing me 70 euro for 2 meters - 0.65 mm OFC (22 awg) in Teflon (OTA cable from 47lab) costing 7 euro/meter. However is this thick enough?? I could use 2 twisted. - 1.0 mm crystal silverwire (18 awg) vandenHul mcs1000, probably 100 euro/meter - 2.5 mm2 plain copperwire (13 awg) 1 euro/meter The Kimber wire sounds also interresting, but I don't think its sold around here. __________________ Is that all there is?

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17th April 2003, 01:52 AM	#2
JOE DIRT® diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, ON	I would use sheilded cable in anything over an inch long..... the jumper can be a simple hook up wire...as always keep any power wires away from the signal...hope this helps Cheers!!The DIRT®

17th April 2003, 01:59 AM	#3
dantwomey diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada	I'm looking through the aforementioned Percy Audio's interconnect wire selection for the inputs. I see where he carries alot of shielded interconnect wire. Also, I'm looking at some of the pure silver "chassis" wire for the outputs. Regards, Dan

18th April 2003, 05:02 AM	#6
Tazzy diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands	Studio107.nl is a kimber reseller

18th April 2003, 07:47 AM	#8
Tazzy diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands	BTW where do you live in The Hague? I live on erasmusweg near leyweg

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