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Old 5th August 2010, 10:44 PM   #2581
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Default Problem with my B1 buffer(s)

Hello

i just finished a prototype for a cross over circuit using B1 buffers. I build every thing on Perf board. I checked the circuit over and over but there seems to be a shortcut between the +9V and -9V rails (that is also what i can measure with my multimeter). What could be the problem?

The only components that can cause a shortcut between the +9V and -9V rails are the 2sk170. Are the broken? But i made 6 PCB with every PCB 4 buffers (symmetrical signal) and on every PCB i have the shortcut

My 2SK170 are connected like this

1) first 2sk170:
- Gate to input
- Source to drain of second 2sk170
- Drain to +9V
2) second 2sk170
- Gate and Source to -9V
- Drain to source of first 2sk170 --> connects to PLLXO network.

Any ideas?
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Old 6th August 2010, 12:04 AM   #2582
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You May want to email Nelson Pass.
I am sure he has an answer.
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Old 6th August 2010, 12:12 AM   #2583
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Any ideas?
High resolution pictures of both sides of perfboards would help.
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Old 6th August 2010, 03:43 PM   #2584
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i will post somue pictures, first i have to disassemble everything
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Old 6th August 2010, 08:23 PM   #2585
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Check the pinout of the Jfets.

Looking at the flat side with the pins coming out the bottom,
Left to Right: Drain, Gate, Source

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Old 6th August 2010, 09:53 PM   #2586
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Hello Nelson,

yep i checked that (also with the 2sk170 datasheet) and i don't see any mistakes. But it takes some time to dissasemble. I will post a picture of one buffer circuit after that.

This is how it looks like, but you can't see the details in this picture:

B1-PLLXO (HP or LP)-B1-attenuator-B1.

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Harold
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Old 6th August 2010, 10:40 PM   #2587
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I found the faulty buffer stage. When i hooked up the battery power supply to one buffer after another, i found the shortcut on one buffer. I will have a look at that tomorrow and check the solder points.

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Best of luck.
you will love it when you get it going.
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Old 7th August 2010, 08:38 PM   #2589
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I found two problems:

1) I found a short cut in one of the 2sk170 legs and corrected it
2) In the first buffer of the HP i found a resistor of 1K iso 1M to ground, stupid mistake. I had to take out the board because one of the jfets was burned. I now use the 1st buffer of the LP to also drive the HP filter.

Now i have sound coming from the system on a very low volume for the Hp and no sound from the LP. Before I build in the buffers, i checked the PLLXO with visual analyser for the correct filter frequency and everything worked fine.

Some more research into the circuit to find out what could be the cause of this issue

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Old 7th August 2010, 09:40 PM   #2590
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Yeas yeas it finally works. Beautiful. it will be late tonight.
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