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Old 1st July 2008, 04:35 AM   #91
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Congrats Nelson

You are on a roll - a looong roll. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
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Old 1st July 2008, 07:22 AM   #92
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I was wondering if it would be more convenient to use a dual power supply, +-9 v . This is because it seems easier to 'transform " this buffer into a first or a second order active crossover if it uses a dual PSU.

If so, R2, R3, R103, R203, D1, C2 and C3 would be removed. A resistor would be attached from the gate of Q100 (Q200) to ground, and, if you want to make a 1st order high pass filter, C100 (C200) could be scaled down for a specific frequency. For a second order high pass filter, I would add another resistor going from the source of Q100 (Q200), then to the front of C100 (C200), plus one more cap...(you know the topology of the second order high pass filter).
Please let me know if this idea doesn't work...


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Old 1st July 2008, 07:40 AM   #93
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I would chose a Idss for the current sink that is a few mAmps lower so that the upper one is running a bit under its Idss, this to avoid gate current.
Following previous discussions on diyaudio I think this is not strictly true. You can forward bias this particular JFET to between +0.2 and +0.3. Volts, depending on chip temperature, before you see any significant gate currents, and running the JFET at full IDSS appears to be about optimal.
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Old 1st July 2008, 12:40 PM   #94
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Today I builded the Circuit . Values are ok , it works . But the LSK389 are pretty hot . Is that normal?

Also ... may I go for R105 and R205 to 100Kohm ?

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Old 1st July 2008, 01:02 PM   #95
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Old 1st July 2008, 01:13 PM   #96
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I am listening to the F5 and going to test with the F3 too .

Very good for now .

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Old 1st July 2008, 01:22 PM   #97
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Question third small blue colour capacitor

Hi friends,
I just look into internal photos of B1 ( attached on enjoythemusic web site - review ) and I see third small ( blue colour ) capacitor laying between both channels in the middle of the PCB. His two traces coming directly into direction of both 2SK170 transistors on right channel. One leg of this small one connect probably GATE in first transistor and SOURCE in other one. I don`t see such small capacitor on attached circuit diagram !
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Do not judge a book by it's cover.

The B1 schematic does contain 3 of the Beyschlag MKP416 caps.
Although the 1uF value only comes in 15mm lead spacing, it's safe to assume it has it's leads soldered to pads at the bottom and not at the top.
The one you see is a ground trace, the gate of the bottom JFET connects to it, as does bypass cap C3 of the voltage divider.
Which makes the second trace the one that supplies the 9Vdc to the gates of both input JFETs through the 1M resistors, and why the 2 traces run between both channels.
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Old 1st July 2008, 03:11 PM   #99
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Jacco is right: most probably the loonely blue cap in the middle of the borad is C3. Good idea to place it closer to the Jfet: it lowers the impedance of the tracks.
It looks like Nelson uses (at least in pictured unit) some BC polyester (mylar) caps for C3, C100 and C200 even if in the article he suggested some BC polypropylene ones for C100 and C200 (according to the Digikey part number).
The latter are grey instead of blue and much bigger (15 mm leads spacing instead of 5 mm).
I don't think the polypro caps are soldered underneath.
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Old 1st July 2008, 03:31 PM   #100
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Originally posted by fredlock
Mr. Pass, would this passive preamp be compatible to F5 amp? What I meant is, it might not drive the F5 to full swing or performance. Your thoughts?

I am also interested in the B1 with the F5, well actually I'm really interested in the B2 driving two F5s... Will i need a preamp with more gain to really drive the F5s, or will the B1/2 handle it?
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