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Forza Vale !
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Hi Alex! Today i have started the pumpkin and i have detected a annoying noise, i have detected from my CRO (the picture shows both channels) a hi frequency noise,but what my ears hear is more like a tone of 100 Hz square wave, strange but true!
I have to tell you that I used the molex connectors, and I think that the connections with the top of the pcb are probably not ok, so I had to make a ground bridge on below pcb, as picture shows. I also tried to disconnect the input connector and I have to say that the noise is slightly diminished but not disappeared! I also tell you that when i put signal it i ears the sound ok !No distortion ..but when i turn down the volume the noise is there to break my balls! I have already set Wr1 and Wr2 and this all ok and i also add resistor for better DC offset stability(see picture).Please can you send me a diagram with the references of voltage? Please Alex help me!
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to prevent cluttering of thread , send me hires pics on e-mail
I mean - entire preamp , where I can inspect your wiring and grounding scheme
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Hi Alex !Just for your information i failed to tell you that I had already tried the pumpkin before putting it in the cabinet, so.. simply connect the transformer, preamp and psu, and of course signal in and signal out, and I had already noticed that annoying background noise.
I will give you more informations in your PM. Thanks and good morning. Antonio |
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Hi Alex! Trying also the craziest things to solve the problem, I finally solved!
I removed R21 10k and it all worked out! Then i decided to investigate and i found out that you also designed a version of Pumpkin using in place of R21 ... U1 LM336Z-5V Pumpkin Preamp - Perfect for F4 Question... What should I do now leave everything just as it is now, or change something? Removing R21 can involve some variation on the frequency response / stability of the circuit, or ...... I feel comfortable, listen to music and drink wine? I hope that this discovery could also help other people in this forum! Greetings to all. |
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Hi at all! I noticed that there are several differences between the schematic 1 ( that reflects the reality of my pcb) and schematic 2 .
I noticed that i reconnecting R21 but bringing R22 from 47 to 220 ohm things got better, then I also connected the base of Q9 between D4 and D5. But to be able to adjust the offset between -out and +out i had increase WR1 from 47 to 220 ohm. Now Noise is OK! (please see shematic 3) Strangely I have a gain of 4 instead of 4.7 using R5 and R6 47K and leaving R1 and R3 10K, I also changed C1 and C2 from 5p to 10p. I think everything I've done. Now i need a greater extent in the high frequencies, I realized that my Pumkin vs my Emerson is less extensive on high. Please can you give me some advice for more extension? I believe that pumpkin can give more. Last edited by tonimxp; 24th January 2013 at 11:03 AM. |
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Tony
I was working tonight (some mumbo jumbo which can be done just between day -shifts) and just arrived from trip , back home ; I need to catch few hours of sleep whatever - it seems you had difficulties reading Cook Book - (sorry - I'm ignorant peasant , knowing just few words of Italian , so I couldn't make Italian version ) , so you obviously messed up something , somewhere most left schematic is last , valid one , while middle (and most right ) one are somewhere from thread , during testing and developing whatever - it seems you solved those issues , except lack of highs , which I'm finding somewhat doubtful ; accoring to AR2's measurements - Pumpkin is some 0,5db down on 20KHz ( with highest gain setting - for F4) , but that's nothing comparing to our hearing capability , considering age will take a look at e-mail I got this moment from you , and write what I have now I need to nap , my eyes are already somewhere else
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