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Old 24th May 2008, 10:25 AM   #11
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The frontend has nothing peculiar to do with that.

Don't worry about this now and work on a single amp first. Or is the additional wattage really that hard needed?

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buying any Treshold for reasonable money and refresh it is one thing , certainly more than reasonable and rewarding ;
making one from scratch ....... I'm sure that Papa will tell you that making one of his later designs is better investment ......... labor and funds/sound wise ......
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Old 24th May 2008, 11:41 AM   #13
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Treshold for reasonable money
Ah yes. But that's another competition. Ebay shows only ridiculous prices...
Alternatively one of the Alephs would be much easier to clone and certainly sound even better. Maybe you could even buy pcbs from other members? Would facilitate your project a lot.

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The frontend has nothing peculiar to do with that.

Don't worry about this now and work on a single amp first. Or is the additional wattage really that hard needed?

Have fun, Hannes
Hi Hannes

Actually I already have all the parts for the front end. I really concern about the connection points between the front end and the output stage. That is why I have been putting this project on hold until everything is clear before I go further.
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Old 26th May 2008, 02:09 PM   #15
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Dear fellow,

you're missing much more than that.

Just look at the front end pins! You will note that crucial parts are not contained in the front end schematic - I mean crucial for full operation of a real amp (not topology wise).

The easy things are input impedance (voltage divider at the input), the bias pot for the VBE-multiplier and offset adjust.

The not so easy one is frequency compensation. For that one you will likely need an oscilloscope and a bit of fiddling to get it right. Or you could give simulation a go.

Please don't get me wrong, but I think you're not yet up to cloning this amp on your own.

Why don't you build one of those cute Alephs first?

Have fun, Hannes

PS: by the way, not a nice way to store parts
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Old 27th May 2008, 02:08 AM   #16
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Dear fellow,

you're missing much more than that.

Just look at the front end pins! You will note that crucial parts are not contained in the front end schematic - I mean crucial for full operation of a real amp (not topology wise).

The easy things are input impedance (voltage divider at the input), the bias pot for the VBE-multiplier and offset adjust.

The not so easy one is frequency compensation. For that one you will likely need an oscilloscope and a bit of fiddling to get it right. Or you could give simulation a go.

Please don't get me wrong, but I think you're not yet up to cloning this amp on your own.

Why don't you build one of those cute Alephs first?

Have fun, Hannes

PS: by the way, not a nice way to store parts

Hi Hannes

Are you sure it is not a complete schematic? I have the service manual of the SA series and in the manual there is also a layout of the pcb for the front end. The parts on the schematic are same as those on the pcb layout.
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Old 27th May 2008, 07:39 AM   #17
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Ah I see you're talking about the original '89 frontend! I was referring to the '90 version that never went into series (that I'm interested in). Sorry!

Of course that's a different story - however it has also unknowns as the 'to stasis collector' connection. I did not bother to look closer at that, but it's probably easy to figure out.

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