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Old 3rd November 2009, 11:12 PM   #5571
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I dare not say this, but are lowest resistance fore power up
I thought it was the other way round, that lower resistance would give higher bias
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Old 4th November 2009, 12:30 AM   #5572
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Hi,

Looking at the picture of Cviller's board for P2 I can see that if you use the 3266W (offset legs) then it will short/tie together the wiper (pin2) with pin 1. In this case, to start with zero ohms you will indeed have to turn it completely clockwise to start and bias by turning counter-clockwise. I built my first F5 with Cviller's board, but apparently used an in-line style and oriented it with pins 2&3 together, so that was why I remembered starting with it completely counter-clockwise and biasing it by turning clockwise. I should have been more careful with my advise.

On Peter Daniel's board he has a little symbol on the board for the screw so that you will orient it with pins 1&2 tied together, so you will zero it by having it turned completely clockwise.

I'm very sorry about that. Hopefully no one has melted their amp.
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I dare not say this, but are lowest resistance fore power up
I thought it was the other way round, that lower resistance would give higher bias
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actually, there is a mark on cviller's board as well to indicate orientation. it would have pins 1&2 tied. but in the assembly manual photo, he has it the opposite direction (pins 2&3 tied). i know this as i just soldered one channel up yesterday
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I dare not say this, but are lowest resistance fore power up
I thought it was the other way round, that lower resistance would give higher bias
Hi,
Beftus has already quoted from the "initial adjustment" portion of the F5 manual, so it indeed is true. It does say in another area that "This 3.6V DC value is necessary to bias the power MOSFET's Q3 and Q4 into conduction."
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It does actually say to set pots at minimum using ohmmeter
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It does actually say to set pots at minimum using ohmmeter
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Old 4th November 2009, 07:02 AM   #5580
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Well,
I get home and I look inside my first F5 with Cviller's board and see that it is a W style trimpot, so I'm thinking "what the fudge?" It was made with a tech-diy kit and the website lists a bourns 3266W.
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I look inside my parts bin and see that I have an extra one. I notice that unlike the picture I pulled off the internet, this one shows the pins labeled the otherway! Perhaps one is a counterfeit or mistaken art?
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Just to confirm, zero ohms achieved in the completely counter-clockwise position.
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Perhaps the best thing to do is make one of the following, set to zero, and place in the R3&R4 positions, leaving the P1&P2 positions empty (no jumpers).
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