Lead-free, RoHS, etc.

Nixie · 9th February 2007, 02:43 AM

Such garbage.

I like my lead.

jackinnj · 9th February 2007, 02:51 AM

Well ROE-HAAS is going to be a way of life -- all the transistors I have been getting are now "G" or "PBF" version.

how many cell-phones equal one car battery?

Apex Jr · 9th February 2007, 03:52 AM

Well ... Ro Hs is real and for me afecting my business,

I've lost 3 major guitar amp manufacturer since I can't
certify my parts as being RoHs compliant.

I have over 6 million carbon comp resistors which has
leaded leads and even the paint to color the color code
is lead paint. Lots of my caps have leaded leads, some
of my wire is tinned copper and lots more, if the US
goes for RoHs I'm going to have a big problem as is
a lot of other people...

EU, Europe has there rules, Japan has a set too and
the US is thinking of doing it too...

Hard to make a living with all these rules...

Steve

JensRasmussen · 9th February 2007, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jackinnj
Well ROE-HAAS is going to be a way of life -- all the transistors I have been getting are now "G" or "PBF" version.

how many cell-phones equal one car battery?

Good point, I have heard that less than 2% of the lead used in one year is from electronics - and that is before RoHS has been implemented everywhere in the electronics industry.

I also heard that more than 80% of the annual lead usage is being used in car batteries.

It seem like a joke – but for many smaller businesses it can mean the end – I guess it is just another political decision made to fool people into thinking that the politicians really care about the environment. It’s tragic really – when you think of all the places where RoHS could be implemented and make an real environmental difference at the same time.

\Jens

Geek · 9th February 2007, 08:38 AM

Great idea, badly implemented.

They pick on us because they know we can't fight back. If they legislated all car batteries be Li or NiMH, they'd have a civil war on their hands.

Using a propane torch on my circuit boards to get the dang stuff to stick makes a scorched mess too

Nixie · 9th February 2007, 08:58 AM

Lead is also terribly useful in my other hobby, chemistry.

Geek · 9th February 2007, 10:03 AM

Lead certainly does have it's place there... chemistry is like gourmet cooking

Nixie · 9th February 2007, 10:06 AM

Say, are you on the sciencemadness forums as well? There seems to be a small overlap between here and there (i.e. I know this far that myself and Sch3mat1c are members of both). Funny enough, I've been forced to start a new account on both...

Geek · 9th February 2007, 11:28 AM

Hmmm, never heard of the place. Must go check it out

Hornlover · 9th February 2007, 05:38 PM

Almost all car batteries are recycled for the lead, where a lot of consumer electronic products end up in landfills. All U.S. manufacturers of components are going lead free, as well. Since the EU is a big customer, they have to go that way.

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9th February 2007, 02:51 AM	#2
jackinnj diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Llanddewi Brefi, NJ	Well ROE-HAAS is going to be a way of life -- all the transistors I have been getting are now "G" or "PBF" version. how many cell-phones equal one car battery?

9th February 2007, 03:52 AM	#3
Apex Jr diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Torrance, Calif	Well ... Ro Hs is real and for me afecting my business, I've lost 3 major guitar amp manufacturer since I can't certify my parts as being RoHs compliant. I have over 6 million carbon comp resistors which has leaded leads and even the paint to color the color code is lead paint. Lots of my caps have leaded leads, some of my wire is tinned copper and lots more, if the US goes for RoHs I'm going to have a big problem as is a lot of other people... EU, Europe has there rules, Japan has a set too and the US is thinking of doing it too... Hard to make a living with all these rules... Steve

9th February 2007, 08:38 AM	#5
Geek diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Great idea, badly implemented. They pick on us because they know we can't fight back. If they legislated all car batteries be Li or NiMH, they'd have a civil war on their hands. Using a propane torch on my circuit boards to get the dang stuff to stick makes a scorched mess too

9th February 2007, 08:58 AM	#6
Nixie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC	Lead is also terribly useful in my other hobby, chemistry.

9th February 2007, 10:03 AM	#7
Geek diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Lead certainly does have it's place there... chemistry is like gourmet cooking

9th February 2007, 10:06 AM	#8
Nixie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC	Say, are you on the sciencemadness forums as well? There seems to be a small overlap between here and there (i.e. I know this far that myself and Sch3mat1c are members of both). Funny enough, I've been forced to start a new account on both...

9th February 2007, 11:28 AM	#9
Geek diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004	Hmmm, never heard of the place. Must go check it out

9th February 2007, 05:38 PM	#10
Hornlover diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California	Almost all car batteries are recycled for the lead, where a lot of consumer electronic products end up in landfills. All U.S. manufacturers of components are going lead free, as well. Since the EU is a big customer, they have to go that way.

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