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Old 4th February 2003, 09:08 PM   #101
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Default VISHAY.

Hi,

Vishay make a wide range of resistors,the S102 range AKA bulkfoils are the better sounding ones.

By which I don't mean to say the Rikken are bad,I would use them in different places as I would the bulkfoils though.

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Vishay VTA55: sounded laid back, sort of mellow, darker in character, tubelike with midrange in the first plan
That decription would fit the Holco H range IME. (the non-magnetic ones,that is).

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Old 4th February 2003, 09:16 PM   #102
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Default Re: VISHAY.

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That decription would fit the Holco H range IME. (the non-magnetic ones,that is).
really? i actually find Holco H4's to be a little cool-sounding.
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Old 4th February 2003, 09:27 PM   #103
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You need to repeat with resistors in both directions. Can make a big difference. I tried Vishay and Rikken in passive preamp mounted in opposite directions. I prefer the Vishay . Direction makes the difference in terms of sonic balance.
You must be kidding me. I have already enough of directivness in capacitors.

Is the lettering or color coding at least consistent with a direction? So what are the major differences?
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Old 4th February 2003, 09:38 PM   #104
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Default HOLCO

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really? i actually find Holco H4's to be a little cool-sounding.
Dorkus,

Good to see familiar names again.

All I can say is that these Holcos (H4 and H2 range) replaced Roederstein Resistas for anode Rs,cathode Rs and gridleak Rs in my own gear from preamp to amps up.

I found the result rather too lush and dark sounding compared to what I was used to hear.

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Old 4th February 2003, 09:44 PM   #105
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Elso: Processing can make a large difference. For example, you can take the same semiconductor die, put it into a different package, and the sound will be quite different.

OTOH, if you didn't hear any difference between a standard metal-film resistor and a VSH, I would just forget about it. No matter how wonderful other builders may claim certain components are, if you can't make them work to your advantage and your tastes, you are better off focusing on the aspects and components that result in sonic benefits for _your_ circuits and _your_ tastes. No sense in cluttering up your life with details that you cannot take advantage of.

Frank:

>The Vishay S102 bulkfoils have a rep for sounding as close to no resistor at all.<

I reckon that the S102s _do_ have a distinctive sound. In fact, there are quite a few Japanese builders that don't like the S102s. If nothing else, this demonstrates again that no single component is suitable for all tastes and all circuits.

>I don't mean to say the Rikken are bad, I would use them in different places as I would the bulkfoils though.<

I completely agree. Both sound (and measure) quite differently, and for different reasons, both are useful for audio circuits.

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Old 4th February 2003, 10:01 PM   #106
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Default DIRECTIVE RESISTORS.

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Is the lettering or color coding at least consistent with a direction? So what are the major differences?
Ahem...if they're not than we have ourselves a little problem...
And I'm pretty certain no manufacture of ressitors care about directive of their elements and leadout wires.

The good news is that after burn in it really doesn't matter.

This is not the case with filmcaps however!

Jonathan,

You're absolutely correct,they do have a sound of their own.
What doesn't?
Still as a series R they seem to exhibit more neutrality than anything else I tried so far.
I still need to put the "nudes" to test though...
If you have other Rs in mind worth trying,I'd sure love to give them a try.

All,

For those of you working with voltages higher than say your regular transistor amp the voltage rating and wattage of these resistors have to be kept in mind.
Not to mention the self inductance of wirewound resistors where none inductive ones (a la Ayrton Perry windings) are to be preferred.

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Jonathan,

That is actually a question I was thinking about asking before. What is your experience with directivity in resistors?
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frank:

>They seem to exhibit more neutrality than anything else I tried so far.<

Emphasis on "so far".

>I still need to put the "nudes" to test though...<

If you can obtain and compare identical values of S102s and TX2352s, it will be interesting to compare our respective impressions.

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Default "NUDES"

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If you can obtain and compare identical values of S102s and TX2352s, it will be interesting to compare our respective impressions.
Rest assured,I will.

In the mean time I welcome any brand/type suggestions worth trying.

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You must be kidding me. I have already enough of directivness in capacitors.

Is the lettering or color coding at least consistent with a direction? So what are the major differences?
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Why don't you try it and then decide if I am kidding you. For critical use, I actually try in both directions. Labelling is a different issue which you have to determine from batch to batch. There is a bigger consistent difference in resistors than capacitors, at least without burn in. I have not so far considered the effect of burn in.

If you have this kind of attitude to comments by others, why should other people believe your observations?
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