Transformer calculation for GC

Ipanema · 29th August 2005, 07:08 AM

Hi,

I went to the electronic shops yesterday to buy power transformer for my GC. I ask for two 150VA 24v-0-24v transformer for my monoblock LM3875 GC. The transformer in the shop is only rated in ampereres not in VA, so according to the shop owner 6.25A 24v-0-24v is 150VA, but my calculation indicates that 48*6.25A=300VA.

Pls let me know which is correct? 6.25A is 150VA or 300VA?

What is the minimum VA for each monoblock? Is 150VA optimum?

OTOH, I'm building my monoblock with seperate chasis for PSU and amplifier. So do I really need toroidal transformer or I can just use EI transformer which is much cheaper in my place. I understand that EI transformer produces more stray EMI, but since I have seperate chasis to house my transformer, will it matter?

Can I use 3 pins XLR connector for connection between PSU and amplifier chasis? If not what is the most appropriate connector?

Thanks for your advise.

agent.5 · 29th August 2005, 07:36 AM

300va. I think whether 300va is enough depends on whether your PSU is regulated or not. 300va should be good for 2 channels regulated.

peranders · 29th August 2005, 07:51 AM

A good rule is equally manu VA as watts out. That's minimum. So 100-160 VA for stereo is "normal". More than 300 VA is overkill.

Remember that it takes 5-10 minutes for a transformer to get hot and you will hardly play sinus 100% as a real music signal.

Ipanema · 29th August 2005, 07:54 AM

Hi agent.5,

Do you mean that 6.25A is 300VA?

Regards.

agent.5 · 29th August 2005, 08:02 AM

Yes. you have a total of 48V. 48V * 6.25A = about 300VA

Ipanema · 29th August 2005, 09:19 AM

Thanks agent.5.

OTOH, I'm building my monoblock with seperate chasis for PSU and amplifier. So do I really need toroidal transformer or I can just use EI transformer which is much cheaper in my place. I understand that EI transformer produces more stray EMI, but since I have seperate chasis to house my transformer, will it matter?

Can I use 3 pins XLR connector for connection between PSU and amplifier chasis? If not what is the most appropriate connector?

Regards.

jacco vermeulen · 29th August 2005, 10:09 AM

The XLR's i know are good for 6 amps/50Vac.
For the GC's i hacked together i used Hirschmann Stas/Stak, those do 16 amps/250Vac.

agent.5 · 29th August 2005, 07:21 PM

Quote:

So do I really need toroidal transformer or I can just use EI transformer which is much cheaper in my place. I understand that EI transformer produces more stray EMI, but since I have seperate chasis to house my transformer, will it matter?

My guess is that it will make no difference as long as you have a good power supply. But I suggest that you seek a second opinion.

Ipanema · 30th August 2005, 02:32 AM

Thanks.

stelleg151 · 4th April 2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jacco vermeulen
The XLR's i know are good for 6 amps/50Vac.
For the GC's i hacked together i used Hirschmann Stas/Stak, those do 16 amps/250Vac.

Isnt that a bit high on the voltage side of things for a GC? Generally the national chips dont like anything above 35VDC I thought. Do you run them in series?

29th August 2005, 07:08 AM	#1
Ipanema diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: KL	Transformer calculation for GC Hi, I went to the electronic shops yesterday to buy power transformer for my GC. I ask for two 150VA 24v-0-24v transformer for my monoblock LM3875 GC. The transformer in the shop is only rated in ampereres not in VA, so according to the shop owner 6.25A 24v-0-24v is 150VA, but my calculation indicates that 48*6.25A=300VA. Pls let me know which is correct? 6.25A is 150VA or 300VA? What is the minimum VA for each monoblock? Is 150VA optimum? OTOH, I'm building my monoblock with seperate chasis for PSU and amplifier. So do I really need toroidal transformer or I can just use EI transformer which is much cheaper in my place. I understand that EI transformer produces more stray EMI, but since I have seperate chasis to house my transformer, will it matter? Can I use 3 pins XLR connector for connection between PSU and amplifier chasis? If not what is the most appropriate connector? Thanks for your advise.

29th August 2005, 07:51 AM	#3
peranders Electrons are yellow and more is better! diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Blog Entries: 4	A good rule is equally manu VA as watts out. That's minimum. So 100-160 VA for stereo is "normal". More than 300 VA is overkill. Remember that it takes 5-10 minutes for a transformer to get hot and you will hardly play sinus 100% as a real music signal. __________________ /Per-Anders (my first name) or P-A as my friends call me

29th August 2005, 10:09 AM	#7
jacco vermeulen diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: At the sea front, just under Rotterdam	The XLR's i know are good for 6 amps/50Vac. For the GC's i hacked together i used Hirschmann Stas/Stak, those do 16 amps/250Vac. __________________ Looks like Sponge Bob has killed another thread.

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29th August 2005, 07:36 AM	#2
agent.5 diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA	300va. I think whether 300va is enough depends on whether your PSU is regulated or not. 300va should be good for 2 channels regulated.

29th August 2005, 07:54 AM	#4
Ipanema diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: KL	Hi agent.5, Do you mean that 6.25A is 300VA? Regards.

29th August 2005, 08:02 AM	#5
agent.5 diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA	Yes. you have a total of 48V. 48V * 6.25A = about 300VA

29th August 2005, 09:19 AM	#6
Ipanema diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: KL	Thanks agent.5. OTOH, I'm building my monoblock with seperate chasis for PSU and amplifier. So do I really need toroidal transformer or I can just use EI transformer which is much cheaper in my place. I understand that EI transformer produces more stray EMI, but since I have seperate chasis to house my transformer, will it matter? Can I use 3 pins XLR connector for connection between PSU and amplifier chasis? If not what is the most appropriate connector? Regards.

30th August 2005, 02:32 AM	#9
Ipanema diyAudio Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: KL	Thanks.

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