How to use this transformer?

BoGoMiPz · 23rd September 2002, 08:42 AM

Hi all,

I've got a toroidal transformer that I'd like to find out how to use. This tranny's got four pairs of wires on the secondary side. The spec says that each pair gives 42VAC/4.64A (for a total 780VA). I want to use this for a 2 channel amp, so if two pairs of outlets could be combined for +/- 60VDC it would be great.

In a perfect world I would just connect two wires and use this as ground. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work. When I messure the output voltages I get 42VAC over each pair of wires, but when I check voltages accross the pairs I get something like 40V and 2V (not 42V and 0V).

Does anyone have any suggestions on how this transformer might be wired, or how to use it for +/- 60V supply rails?

-truls

peranders · 23rd September 2002, 08:55 AM

If the transformer has the standard colours:

Yellow = 230 V in

Sec 1 = brown-blue
Sec 2 = green-red

Connecting with "center tap"
brown and red to ground
blue and green to the rectifier bridge

UrSv · 23rd September 2002, 09:27 AM

HI,

First try to swap the connected wires i.e if wire 2 of secondary 1 is connected to wire 2 of secondary 2 then connect wire 2 of secondary 1 to wire 1 of secondary 2 and measure again. If the secondaries are separate (i.e. not connected physically which you can verfy by using a resistance meter) it should work.

The 42 VAC will however maybe not give 60 VDC as 42*1.414 = 59.4 without taking into account the losses in the bridge.

/UrSv

BoGoMiPz · 23rd September 2002, 12:26 PM

I tried to do what peranders says before. I don't know why it didn't work then, maybe I had a bad wire or something.

Next question; the secondaries measure 42VAC without load, can I count this as 59V in the circuit, or will the voltage of the tranny fall under load?

-truls

UrSv · 23rd September 2002, 12:54 PM

The voltage will drop when loaded and the rectifier will also have a drop.

/UrSv

AudioFreak · 23rd September 2002, 01:04 PM

If this is for a Class A amp, we generally count on between VAC*1.2 and VAC*1.25.... for Class AB etc, VAC*1.3 is probably more realistic.

23rd September 2002, 08:42 AM	#1
BoGoMiPz diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Norway	How to use this transformer? Hi all, I've got a toroidal transformer that I'd like to find out how to use. This tranny's got four pairs of wires on the secondary side. The spec says that each pair gives 42VAC/4.64A (for a total 780VA). I want to use this for a 2 channel amp, so if two pairs of outlets could be combined for +/- 60VDC it would be great. In a perfect world I would just connect two wires and use this as ground. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work. When I messure the output voltages I get 42VAC over each pair of wires, but when I check voltages accross the pairs I get something like 40V and 2V (not 42V and 0V). Does anyone have any suggestions on how this transformer might be wired, or how to use it for +/- 60V supply rails? -truls

23rd September 2002, 08:55 AM	#2
peranders Electrons are yellow and more is better! diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Göteborg, Sweden Blog Entries: 4	If the transformer has the standard colours: Yellow = 230 V in Sec 1 = brown-blue Sec 2 = green-red Connecting with "center tap" brown and red to ground blue and green to the rectifier bridge __________________ /Per-Anders (my first name) or P-A as my friends call me Tube Buffered Gainclone in work \|Thread

23rd September 2002, 12:26 PM	#4
BoGoMiPz diyAudio Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Norway	It works! I tried to do what peranders says before. I don't know why it didn't work then, maybe I had a bad wire or something. Next question; the secondaries measure 42VAC without load, can I count this as 59V in the circuit, or will the voltage of the tranny fall under load? -truls

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23rd September 2002, 09:27 AM	#3
UrSv diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden	HI, First try to swap the connected wires i.e if wire 2 of secondary 1 is connected to wire 2 of secondary 2 then connect wire 2 of secondary 1 to wire 1 of secondary 2 and measure again. If the secondaries are separate (i.e. not connected physically which you can verfy by using a resistance meter) it should work. The 42 VAC will however maybe not give 60 VDC as 42*1.414 = 59.4 without taking into account the losses in the bridge. /UrSv

23rd September 2002, 12:54 PM	#5
UrSv diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden	The voltage will drop when loaded and the rectifier will also have a drop. /UrSv

23rd September 2002, 01:04 PM	#6
AudioFreak Warp Engineer On Holiday Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Queensland, Australia	If this is for a Class A amp, we generally count on between VAC1.2 and VAC1.25.... for Class AB etc, VAC*1.3 is probably more realistic.

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