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Old 8th July 2004, 07:51 AM   #1
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I hope that I'm not beating a dead horse here, but I couldn't find the info I am looking for (sorry if it's already in a thread). I have a tough time buying the whole black gate cap "miracle," but I'm interested to see what's driving people to use them. Can someone direct me to a data sheet for the standard series (I assume most people use the standard series?)? Does anyone know what ESR is for 1000uF 50V? Also, I've seen several places on the net that sell them, but which distributors have people had good experiences with in the states? Thanks for your time,

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Old 8th July 2004, 09:10 AM   #2
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Old 8th July 2004, 05:11 PM   #3
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Thanks fdegrove. Are there any verisons that are slightly more ledgible? The jpeg makes the graphs are totally useless. Also, where do people usually get them? Thanks,

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Old 8th July 2004, 05:16 PM   #4
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Percy Audio has them in stock.

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What is price against good quality standard ones ? It's new device - whatabout reliability ?
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What is price against good quality standard ones ?
What standard ones? Electrolytics?
Black gates, contrary to what most people seem to think, are not "typical" electrolytics even though they span the same range of values and voltages.
Prices are pretty high but well worth it...Let's hope they'll get cheaper as sales figures increase.

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New? Not really...They'd be inherently longer lasting than standard electrolytics as they do not have electrolyte inside of them.
Sonically they're on a par with the better filmcaps and just as reliable IME.

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"... pretty high ... " - which cost for example 10 G / 63 V ?
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"... pretty high ... " - which cost for example 10 G / 63 V ?
Probably much less than film caps, yet quality is comparable or better.
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Black gates, contrary to what most people seem to think, are not "typical" electrolytics even though they span the same range of values and voltages.

Hi Frank , This must be a joke.
One of the "technical" papers mentions graphite particles and in the same picture ion transfer.
In fact the added graphite particles are postulated as an improvement to the latter as this should have electron transfer. Well, well............
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