Hello to everyone
I am planing to upgrade my Line magnetic 518ia se amp, 845 tube based.
The new caps would be jupiter copper foil,in the signal path.
I had melting issues in the past with the old jupiter beeswax caps in a push pull
kt88 amp.
the lm 518 amp is more hot,than the push pull.
Any experience regarding the melting.
Thanks ahead!
Kende
I am planing to upgrade my Line magnetic 518ia se amp, 845 tube based.
The new caps would be jupiter copper foil,in the signal path.
I had melting issues in the past with the old jupiter beeswax caps in a push pull
kt88 amp.
the lm 518 amp is more hot,than the push pull.
Any experience regarding the melting.
Thanks ahead!
Kende
Hi Kende,
Welcome to DIYAudio!
There is one factor to recognise. Wax has a low melting point and is highly variable in characteristics. You might be better off using a Teflon or Polypropylene capacitor. They are much better capacitors anyway. Try not to use giant parts either as they are more vulnerable to noise pickup, or radiation.
Best, Chris
Welcome to DIYAudio!
There is one factor to recognise. Wax has a low melting point and is highly variable in characteristics. You might be better off using a Teflon or Polypropylene capacitor. They are much better capacitors anyway. Try not to use giant parts either as they are more vulnerable to noise pickup, or radiation.
Best, Chris
I've had problems with melting bees wax capacitors in the past, and have never recommended them.
A good teflon capacitor is about as blameless as a large film and foil capacitor can be, they don't sound the same (a good thing IMO).
Vcap or REL offer much safer and much more reliable options.
If you must have something euphonic I would recommend you look at Jensen.
V-Cap Fluoropolymer Film
Capacitors | Oil Capacitors
Reliable Capacitors (TFT)
Audio Capacitors / Aluminium tube
A good teflon capacitor is about as blameless as a large film and foil capacitor can be, they don't sound the same (a good thing IMO).
Vcap or REL offer much safer and much more reliable options.
If you must have something euphonic I would recommend you look at Jensen.
V-Cap Fluoropolymer Film
Capacitors | Oil Capacitors
Reliable Capacitors (TFT)
Audio Capacitors / Aluminium tube
Hi Kende,
Those parts are too large for one, and they aren't as good as the types I mentioned. That and the expense is off the charts!
I would suggest that you relax and use some common sense. The more expensive audiophile parts are typically a lot worse than a "normal" capacitor is. Good industrial parts are typically reasonably priced, some can be expensive. But generally you are better served by these parts. They are also smaller and as a result will pick up less noise, or transmit noise. Think of a capacitor as a big antenna. Within reason, the smaller the capacitor is, the less noise you will have to deal with. That noise could be crosstalk or even feedback from the same circuit. Proximity to the power supply might make it an injection point for hum and buzz.
Take some time and learn about capacitors and other parts, but not from forums and "White papers". Try some electronics industry sources, articles from people in the sciences (Electronics or Physics). That way you can learn the truth and save a lot of money while getting superior results.
-Chris
Those parts are too large for one, and they aren't as good as the types I mentioned. That and the expense is off the charts!
I would suggest that you relax and use some common sense. The more expensive audiophile parts are typically a lot worse than a "normal" capacitor is. Good industrial parts are typically reasonably priced, some can be expensive. But generally you are better served by these parts. They are also smaller and as a result will pick up less noise, or transmit noise. Think of a capacitor as a big antenna. Within reason, the smaller the capacitor is, the less noise you will have to deal with. That noise could be crosstalk or even feedback from the same circuit. Proximity to the power supply might make it an injection point for hum and buzz.
Take some time and learn about capacitors and other parts, but not from forums and "White papers". Try some electronics industry sources, articles from people in the sciences (Electronics or Physics). That way you can learn the truth and save a lot of money while getting superior results.
-Chris
Hi Kende,
Welcome to DIYAudio!
There is one factor to recognise. Wax has a low melting point and is highly variable in characteristics. You might be better off using a Teflon or Polypropylene capacitor. They are much better capacitors anyway. Try not to use giant parts either as they are more vulnerable to noise pickup, or radiation.
Best, Chris
Yes, real caps haven't used wax, for a reason, for 60 years.
Hi cbdb,
-Chris
Mostly correct. They are all real capacitors, but the mainstream electronics industry doesn't use wax or paper in oil for excellent reasons. They aren't reliable for one. That should be enough for anyone.Yes, real caps haven't used wax, for a reason, for 60 years.
-Chris
Still, they state as operational temperature 80 C, so I would avoid them in a tube amplifier and use it in tube pre, dac etc.
80 degrees ? how are you supposed to solder them with an iron at 300 degrees plus then ? BOS ! Even the solder doesn't melt until 180 degrees.
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