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Old 30th November 2003, 04:02 PM   #1
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Default Sanyo OS-CON any good ?

Hi ,

what is special about this caps ? Sound good ?
I have 220/10, what can I do with them ?

Has anybody ever tried Siemens MKL ?


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Old 30th November 2003, 05:32 PM   #2
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Thumbs up I like 'em

They're special because they are a little closer to the "perfect capacitor" than most other electrolytics.
Whether they sound good or bad (like any other component) depends on how you use them.
The value and voltage makes them perfect for cathode bypass (decoupling) in many small signal valve stages......time for a change?
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Old 2nd December 2003, 09:51 PM   #3
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Just found a use for them , have 120 or so.

Is Nichicon LXF or SXE something special or just üpper middle class ?
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The value and voltage makes them perfect for cathode bypass (decoupling) in many small signal valve stages......time for a change?
Although I am very fond of OSCON in digital gear I am surprised that they are recommended in tube amps. My experience is that they don't sound optimal in the analog signal path. In the digital part of cdplayers and for the supply of low jitter oscillators they are the right cap at the right place. I recall using them once for decoupling an opamp in the output stage. Deteriorated the sound, very thin bass. It took me some time to find out that it were the OSCONs ( 15 uF 25V ). I gave them the time to settle but couldn't get good results.

SXE is very good. Mmm, nearly miswrote that quote Long life and low ESR and good sounding. I forgot about LXF, couldn't obtain them easily as well so I used SXE instead. OSCON is better though.

Please google for datasheets on OSCON. You'll like what you'll read...
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Although I am very fond of OSCON in digital gear I am surprised that they are recommended in tube amps. My experience is that they don't sound optimal in the signal path.

SXE is very good. Mmm, nearly miswrote that quote Long life and low ESR and good sounding. I forgot about LXF, couldn't obtain them easily as well so I used SXE instead.
Lol, and I misread
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Wink Suitability of OS cons

For those who can "hear" unmeasureable artefacts, they may not be right
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Strange comment from a tube geek, tube geeks hear unmeasurable artefacts all the time

Anyhow, I am not the only one with that experience. I *do* stock and use OSCON 100/220 uF quite frequently and I am in no way negative about this great product except that there are better caps out there for use in the analog signal path.
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In my experience OSCON's are great for digital circuit decoupling. However a bit sharp sounding for decoupling analog stages. Nothing i know beats Black Gate in that area.

LXF - SXE are you talking Nippon Chemicon's?

We used a lot of these in the 90's where analythical was good, and micro details analysis was better. (At any cost .. specially musicality). Nowadays though, other sound types and other capacitors are preferred.
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Strange comment from a tube geek, tube geeks hear unmeasurable artefacts all the time

Anyhow, I am not the only one with that experience. I *do* stock and use OSCON 100/220 uF quite frequently and I am in no way negative about this great product except that there are better caps out there for use in the analog signal path.

Jean-Paul, what about some OSCONs for the 14 decoupling caps of a TDA1541A?
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Yes I meant Nippon Chemicon, now United Chemicon SXE. Used them mainly in digital gear with good results.

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Nowadays though, other sound types and other capacitors are preferred.
You're right. Time to move on. BG NX Hi Q is very good but few values are made unfortunately. Panasonic FC is good and not expensive. BCComponents make some fine caps as well, I use them mostly.

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Jean-Paul, what about some OSCONs for the 14 decoupling caps of a TDA1541A?
Yeah, what about them ?
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