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Old 19th December 2003, 09:26 PM   #91
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I pulled one out from the rubber, it says RCA nuvistor G-39 or 6-39
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Old 20th August 2004, 07:09 AM   #92
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Default About MKL

Hi
I'm interested in Siemens MKL, too.
But this is the only article I can find mentioned about MKL.

http://www.hta-bi.bfh.ch/E/induel/co...f/s_konden.pdf

I cannot read German, so can sombody tell me about MKL?

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Old 20th August 2004, 08:26 AM   #93
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About MKL ( cellulose-acetate dieelectricum ) the document says:

optimal self healing capacity
high volume capacity
very high reliability
universal useable

Typical applications:

for use in aerospace/aeronautic applications.
for supplementation/complementation with electrolytic caps.
high reliability use in electronic circuits.
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Old 24th August 2013, 04:57 PM   #94
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hi all
I used 1 oscon parallel white 1 elna silmicII for power dac
oscon 68uf 10v +silmic II 100uf 25v + 10nf seramic cap
sound is very good ...
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Old 28th August 2013, 06:44 AM   #96
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Nine years later, the list of players have changed for organic dielectric caps. New players include Nichicon and United/Nippon Chemi-Con. The voltage range has gone up somewhat, but you won't get a whole lot of capacitance at the higher voltage range. ESR is pretty low, and ripple current is astounding for such a small package. If you want a pencil eraser-sized cap that is rated for 5A ripple current these will do it, though you will wrestle with the capacitance - ESR product when stabilizing your loop. If you were depending on the ESR zero to help you (as with normal electrolytics), you might be in for a rude surprise.
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Old 28th August 2013, 10:08 PM   #97
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Nine years later it's time to ask three questions:

What series (SA/SC/SH) do you recommend for which purpose? Farnell sells all
these three. I have the digital section of my CDP in mind as most here recommend
to not use them in analogue circuitry.

Secondly, RS components offer OsCons too, but they do not state which series.
Does anyone know about?

Last not least, I remember I've read somewhere Sanyo recently discontinued the
known Oscon capacitors and replaced them with inferior caps of the same name
- very confusing. Is this correct?



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What series (SA/SC/SH) do you recommend for which purpose? Farnell sells all
these three. I have the digital section of my CDP in mind as most here recommend
to not use them in analogue circuitry.
For digital, any OSCON will do. For analog, SA would be my choice.

BTW, I use OSCON SC for both - digital bypass, analog bypass and coupling. It's not the best cap for coupling, since it has leakage current, but it's better than almost any traditional electrolytic for transparency. SC also has non-magnetic silver-plated brass leads, which wets and solders easily once you scrape the tarnish off (if any), and SC is also the only series available relatively easily to me.

You could also consider bypassing the OSCON with a Panasonic ECHU SMD PPS cap on the underside - something like 47nF or 100nF should be adequate for just about any application.

If the space is tight and the capacitance value is low enough, Wima MKS2 is a better choice for coupling. Black Gate PK is better than OSCON for analog bypassing (but more veiled than OSCON for coupling). However, it is now unobtainium and/or too expensive in most values for generic CDP/DVDP upgrades.

Edit: Don't use an OSCON for bypassing the output of 3-terminal regulator to ground - that's asking for instability.

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I have tried the green Sanyo WG for C cathode bypass, surprisingly they sounds better than elna cerafine, both red and black, much cheaper also these sanyo.
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For digital, any OSCON will do. For analog, SA would be my choice.

Edit: Don't use an OSCON for bypassing the output of 3-terminal regulator to ground - that's asking for instability.
Hi Ticktock,

The worse ESR you use after the output of 3-terminal regulator to ground, the better they sound. I use old nichicon here (SE serie) of the 80's or older cap with highest possible ESR 47 uf to 200 uF or 1500 and more but with protection for the thre pad regulator. It's for analog because with difital an oscon after a regulator works fine...

The very good esr (low) has with a regulator to be before it & near it.

If it helps : I try the green sanyo one as power cap for output of dac or cd players and found the sound has a bad tonal balance : no meat no flesh in bass and medium...with all aop, discrete or not. Found no better part here that Nichicon muse kz. Silmic 2 is bad here too and far better as dc stoper for output (try here the known conf with 2 in series: - + + - ).

But don't know for tubes....

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