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Old 13th February 2013, 05:48 PM   #11
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I have a few
bought a long time ago
Im not even sure the word fake was known

biggest I have is closed with brown plate
smaller ones have the usual rubber sealing

big one is 100V, 220uf
R in Rubicon is right above the L in Black Gate
and 'n' in Rubicon end exactly above 't' in Black Gate
so nothing like any of the two you show above

but on the smaller cap I have, the name Black Gate is smaller, and about of same length as Rubicon
on even smaller ones I have, same thing both of same length

I don't know
are there still any real ones out there
I thought they were gone long time ago
but yes, it is funny all these Black gates pop up know
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Old 13th February 2013, 05:54 PM   #12
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tinitus where did you bought?
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Old 13th February 2013, 05:55 PM   #13
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btw, what is remarkable when I look at them caps... hard to find one where the whole name is written
part of the name is missing on all of them
like they have used an endless plastic tubing, and cut without caring where it ends or begins
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Old 13th February 2013, 05:58 PM   #14
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tinitus where did you bought?
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I dont know when...could be 10years ago
well, they are from before I became a member here
or else I wouldnt have bought them
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Old 13th February 2013, 06:05 PM   #15
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I have using these caps from time to time and since some of them are used ones , removed from my own gears that I no longer used , I used to take measurement to see if it did stay in shape and hold a charge without quickly dis-charging it , from all my past experiences , these caps were always closed to within 5% tolerance before any re-forming . Some of my caps are over 10 years old , some maybe 15 years , but most of them were used in mild conditions , never too hot , thus , they remain in good shape .

The word length of Rubycon is @90% the length of Blackgate . Not exactly the same . Space or no space between , both are originals .

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Old 13th February 2013, 06:07 PM   #16
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I'm only guessing, but if they are real that would mean a different process/set-up was used for the print which doesn't necessarily seem impossible.

How then, could anybody possibly tell if they are fakes . They have different print size and spacing and unfortunately, their tested values seem to be way off.

So basically it's impossible to determine if fake Blakgates exist?

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Old 13th February 2013, 06:17 PM   #17
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I have both printings & both are originals.
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15% off value is what I am worrying about , never seen this off value from all my stocks measured so far !
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I never measured 15% off value.
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Old 13th February 2013, 06:33 PM   #20
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Okay, show of hands. Who here sells Black Gates?
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