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Old 7th January 2013, 08:24 PM   #191
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With respect M, your apparent definition of 'integrity' in this context is not one I recognise. I fail to see how integrity is demonstrated by allowing a customer to set their own price for a service. If I walk into a hi-fi dealership, for example, and attempt to buy a pair of loudspeakers below cost price, does the shopkeeper lack integrity because he or she demurs?
Integrity is internal. You live your life, right? No one else does it for you. If the life lived looks like you want it to, then you have maintained its integrity. If it doesn't, then you might well wonder what went wrong. The "context" being talked about here is a one-man operation. I can't imagine a one-man operation being anything other than an extension of the person who is operating it.

If you don't recognise my definition of integrity, it's probably because you're thinking purely in terms of money.
 
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To keep in business, you HAVE to say no when the customer is asking for too much. It is good business to do so.
 
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do you find it impossible that some of the companies making audiophile products are made of people having at least the same amount of experience and know how as the best DIYers here? and that they may have access to very sophisticated (read: expensive) test equipment that almost no DIYer has access to? and that maybe at east some of them actually want to offer the buyers quality (or maybe even best quality) products? what is it that makes a commercial endeavor necessarily marketing and not quality oriented? say you wanted to sell your DIY speakers/electronics/whatever, would that transform you into a conniving, manipulative salesman?
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Old 7th January 2013, 08:38 PM   #194
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No finer tolerances available...
...than ones own standards.

Hey...I do my best...
...If I don't like it; it's in the trash-bin.

Nice thing is...
...no money changes hands.

Cheers.

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but maybe your 'best' is someone else's 'not enough'?
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Old 7th January 2013, 08:44 PM   #196
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DIY is just fine. You, out there, put a significant amount of time and trouble to make something for your very own. Good for you, and I hope that you selected a project that was worthwhile to build as well. Easy is not necessarily the best, and visa-versa.
However, KEEP A LOG, of your time and trouble, including phoning or e-mailing for parts. Then you will know your 'TRUE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION' not some guess.
Then think about having someone do it for you, instead, at a rate of let's say $20/hr.
Now add it up! What do you get?
 
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Hi Mr PP

I dunno about the audio-sales jazz.

But I have a bit of test gear, some ears, some time & a couple of quid.

I think I'm doing pretty good with that...
...a few others seem to think so as well.
( that's always nice )

DIY r o c k s !

Cheers.

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To keep in business, you HAVE to say no when the customer is asking for too much. It is good business to do so.
And if you are a professional, you never say no, because it is the quality of what you do that matters.

Edit: Actually, I did say no to a businessman who was asking too much only a couple of months ago. And then he threw me under a bus!

Edit: Must concede the point. Business is business. No one wants to be a schmuck.

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M Knight please drop it. You have your opinion but you are being personal. Keep it up and points or bin time will result
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No finer tolerances available...
...than ones own standards.

Hey...I do my best...
...If I don't like it; it's in the trash-bin.

Nice thing is...
...no money changes hands.

Cheers.

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sorry you'll excuse me here, what tolerances might they be? tolerances, especially if talking of a resistor, is not a subjective term.
 

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