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Old 6th January 2013, 01:09 AM   #61
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Traditionally the people with money are not fools. They may be guilty of other adjectives, but foolishness is not what comes to mind, at least with money.
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Old 6th January 2013, 01:11 AM   #62
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Hehe, next time a doctor gives you 20 minutes of his/her time and charges you $20,000 for it, you'll never complain about hi-fi ripoffs again!
I don't know what world you live in, but spouting lies (sorry, exaggerations) like this and villainizing physicians for sport is downright insulting. I spent 12 years of my adult life working 80+ hours a week and still work longer and harder than most to make 1/100 of your insult and what do I get? Hatred, envy, and sued. I suggest you rethink such blanket condemnations before you **** off the very doctor whose help you desperately need some day.
 
Old 6th January 2013, 01:13 AM   #63
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Well, I care, for one.

What kind of fairytale world do you live in? One where it's OK to take a child and his single mother's only asset in return for a few magic beans?

When you see somebody getting beaten up in the street, you can walk on by.

Who cares, you say. That old guy probably wasn't a war hero who risked his life in the liberation of occupied Europe 60 years ago, and anyway, who cares?

If I take a shotgun and blow a load of gold-dust into the bank of a stream, and then sell that piece of land to some unsuspecting prospector, that's fraud.

Nowhere are consumer's rights more endangered than when buying hi-fi equipment. That's the point of the article, and no matter how you want to quibble about the details of how it was expressed, the point is well taken.

People are more at risk of being ripped off in this arena than in practically any other retail forum. I can think of a few other problem areas, but as they say, 'Two wrongs don't make a right.'

Publications which should empower consumers persist in propagating the very disinformation which enables these frauds. From those institutions I don't exclude diyaudio.

What we're talking about is: what is fair, and what is known to be true, beyond a reasonable doubt. (The test in civil cases)

Anybody remember the Corvair? Ralph Nader? Manufacturers and their salesmen do not have the right to mislead consumers. 'Anything goes' is not the way we run our civilization. Certainly not, 'Anything goes because profits depend on it'. Just because you can get away with it doesn't make it right. And just because an individual has a lot of money doesn't make it right either.

Are people being taken advantage of? The answer is unequivocally, 'yes.'

Is this a desirable state of affairs?

No.

Wash your hands of the responsibility if you can. Just try to bear in mind whose example you are following.
You speak in ignorance of one who believes strongly in measured performance. Actually quite a few of the posters I would consider to be more performance based guys than voodoo types. But, they seem to also be willing to admit numbers are a part of the story. Profit is not evil. Do not attribute a human trait to an idea or object.
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Old 6th January 2013, 01:23 AM   #64
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Can we go after lawyers then? '-) They like to laugh at themselves.
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Old 6th January 2013, 01:46 AM   #65
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Can we go after lawyers then? '-) They like to laugh at themselves.
I recommend US congresspersons, at least it is politically correct...;-)
 
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Sorry, I did not mean to offend.
 
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the vast majority of modern available music is not highly dymanic and that factor was the big swinger in the calculation. normal people do not unfortunately listen to dynamic material, hell most people seem to listen to movies
Seriously? Most movies have a lot more dynamic than modern music. Have you watched Saving Private Ryan lately?
 
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Here's a ~300 Behringer monitor speaker
Click the image to open in full size.

I'm fairly sure this is the woofer they use:
The Madisound Speaker Store
Behringer appears to be using bass drivers that are made in house at their factory ( Behringer City !) in China . I'm not sure where that ribbon driver comes from .
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Exactly, and that's not 'bad' in itself.
If someone shells out $ 250 for a boutique cap and maintains that it transforms his HiFi to the very best, that's a good deal for him.
Who cares that the cap was a $ 0.75 mass produced item with a shiny jacket and gold-lettered rebranding?
Value is exclusively determined by the buyer, NOT the seller, although ad people try their best.

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You really believe that this kind of practice is ethical? Its like taking vodka, adding some flavour and selling it for ten times the price as a cure for all that ails you. SNAKE OIL.
 

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