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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Israel
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Which are the lowest noise Zener Diodes, either SMD or through hole, which are in current production, regardless of price?
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Join Date: May 2006
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Temp compensated ones like lm329. There are better ones but although you say regardless of price I doubt you want to fork out 60 to 70 dollars for a single part, these are used in space exploration equipment and satelites. Read linear technology application AN82F, very good info on there. You could also make yourself one, just combine a regular zener with a diode.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Haarlem, the Netherlands
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I don't know, but I do know that you should use a voltage well below 5 V if you want low noise, like 3.9 V or less. Higher voltage "zeners" actually have avalanche rather than Zener breakthrough, which causes much more noise.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Israel
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Indeed, $60-70 a piece I cannot afford (since I need quite a few of those). How do I combine a regular diode with a Zener to lower its' noise? |
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Theoretically the lowest noise Zeners are for about 8.2V
Also, here is some list I fond in the Net: CMHZ4099: 6.8 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4100: 7.5 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4101: 8.2 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4102: 8.7 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4103: 9.1 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4104: 10 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4105: 11 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4106: 12 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4107: 13 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4108: 14 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4109: 15 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4110: 16 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4111: 17 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4112: 18 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4113: 19 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4114: 20 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4115: 22 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4116: 24 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4117: 25 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4118: 27 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4119: 28 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4120: 30 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4121: 33 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4122: 36 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4123: 39 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4124: 43 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4125: 47 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4614: 1.8 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4615: 2 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4616: 2.2 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4617: 2.4 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4618: 2.7 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4619: 3 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4620: 3.3 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4621: 3.6 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4622: 3.9 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4623: 4.3 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4624: 4.7 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4625: 5.1 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4626: 5.6 V, Low Noise Zener Diode CMHZ4627: 6.2 V, Low Noise Zener Diode And here are Soviet diode-compensated Zeners for 9V, $3/dozen: D818G USSR Zener Diodes Lot of 12 | eBay
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Best Zeners are 6.2V, which sits on the cusp of Zener and avalanche. Forward biased red LEDs are even quieter.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Israel
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Thanks, all.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Brighton UK
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Hi,
Parallelling cheaper devices is the obvious answer if noise is really an issue. Theoretically 2 devices drop noise by 3dB, 4 by 6dB, 8 by 9dB etc, but practically its never that simple and the point of no real benefit reached for extra devices are 2 devices to about 6 devices usually. (Might be a bigger number with devices not designed for low noise, but that is pointless, you want cheap low noise devices in the first place.) rgds, sreten.
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Ontario
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Would a TL431 be lower noise than a zener. I have read that the ones from ONSEMI are the lowest noise of the various mfgs.
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
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I thought 431 were a lot noisier.
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