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Old 24th October 2003, 07:26 PM   #1
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Default DIY silver non inductive ww resistors

I want to smack myself.
These are .8 ohms and go in the midrange crossover.
I really want to smack myself.
I have been putting these off for a very long time because I did not want to buy insulated silver wire.
I don't know why but I havn't been able to bring myself to pay insulated wire prices.
My guess is, it is the unsurity of how much wire do I need? Could I wind them myself? What if there was no improvement?
So I put it off.

They are not pretty.
I don't care.
I could try to wipe the smile off my face but it would be difficult.
I need a smack.
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Uh... so why do you make a *resistor* out of something that doesn't happen to be very resistive?

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They look like inductors to me... how could they be non-inductive?

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Uh... so why do you make a *resistor* out of something that doesn't happen to be very resistive?

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Because silver sounds better than anything else.

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They look like inductors to me... how could they be non-inductive?

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They are bifilar wound in two layers.
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Curious how much wire it took to make one, and how much one of those ended up costing?

By bifilar, I am guessing you mean you wound 1/2 the resistor in one direction, and the other 1/2 in the other direction?

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Uh... so why do you make a *resistor* out of something that doesn't happen to be very resistive?
By using more of it?

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A) Has it ever been empirically(or even popularly) proven that silver sounds better? I've seen lots of people claiming it's too bright for them to use in their systems for ICs.

B) How much resistance do you get per length?

C) Are you worrying at all about excess capacitance caused by doing this?
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A) Has it ever been empirically(or even popularly) proven that silver sounds better? I've seen lots of people claiming it's too bright for them to use in their systems for ICs.
If you decide to use silver, use it throughout.
For reasons beyond me that works.


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B) How much resistance do you get per length?
8% less than the equivalent copper wire and 35% better sound.

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It's meant for low impedance service so capacitance shouldn't be a major concern.

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Curious how much wire it took to make one, and how much one of those ended up costing?

By bifilar, I am guessing you mean you wound 1/2 the resistor in one direction, and the other 1/2 in the other direction?

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They each use about 26 feet of 36ga fine silver wire.
The first winding is 1.6 ohm. The second winding is 1.6 ohm and is wound the oposite way. When tied together the give .8 ohms resistance .

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A) Has it ever been empirically(or even popularly) proven that silver sounds better? I've seen lots of people claiming it's too bright for them to use in their systems for ICs.

B) How much resistance do you get per length?

C) Are you worrying at all about excess capacitance caused by doing this?
At my house silver sounds better.
I can't measure the capacitance it is too low.

I just made some copper ones 7.2 ohms.
I can't wait to try them.
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Because silver sounds better than anything else.
Ah, but does two dozen feet of silver necessarily sound better than two inches of something else? Less is more, yes?

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I just made some copper ones 7.2 ohms.
I can't wait to try them.
Good luck with 'em!

I just got these today. They're 32 ohm 5 watters I had custom made "nude" and using a 55% copper alloy instead of the typical nichrome. They're for a headphone amp though, not loudspeakers.

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