DIY silver non inductive ww resistors - Page 6

Steve Eddy · 27th October 2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by fdegrove
It's not....

Whether someone prefers the sound of a silver wire resistor over an equivalent copper wire one I can understand completely but noise floor hasn't got anything to do with it...

It would seem so. Even if I put a 100k ohm resistor across my speaker terminals (which will have FAR FAR more noise than any length of wire that would ever be used) I can't hear any more noise than if I short the terminals.

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fdegrove · 27th October 2003, 10:05 PM

Hi,

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And of course unless you listened to a master tape of a recording you already have, how could any meaningful comparison be made?

And that's exactly the point. If you don't have at least one solid reference, what can you do?

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It seems to imply that a master tape is somehow objectively "perfect" when in fact they are made using subjective evaluation in an acoustical environment quite different from the typical listening room and using equipment you typically don't see advertised in the pages of TAS and Stereophile.

Nobody's implying that a master is perfect, but it's what copies are made of...copies that are certainly less perfect than the original, even digital copies.

You have to draw the line somewhere, without an anchor you have no way to turn.

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That may work for you and others, but it hasn't worked for me.

I am sorry to hear that, it works fine for me but then I do run a finely tuned system with a lot of attention paid to detail...
Works with copper wiring as well, but on a slightly inferior level.

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Therefore it seems to me that it just boils down to which filters one prefers.

To my mind, it's not down to what I prefer but to how close the system is to the source...

Personal preferences are ultimately just that.

Cheers,

Magura · 27th October 2003, 11:24 PM

hmm...as far as im concerned, silver is used to reduce resistance.....now making resistors of silver dosnt sound right...does it???

Magura

Steve Eddy · 28th October 2003, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by Magura
hmm...as far as im concerned, silver is used to reduce resistance.....now making resistors of silver dosnt sound right...does it???

They seem to sound fine to tom1356.

Which is ultimately all that matters.

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sully · 28th October 2003, 03:26 AM

Hi tom..

Although I've never tried silver, here is a nice way to wind..

Take the length of wire you need...fold it in half..

Take the folded end, and start winding with that...put a second, any guage wire (say, a yellow wire) between the two silver ones (in the middle of the fold), and one to the outside right of it (say, blue)..in other words, wrap four wires on the tube at a time..with the silver alternating with the others..you should see silver, yellow, silver, blue, silver, yellow, and so on...

The yellow and blue wires are just spacers to hold the silver wire an exact, even distance...this method allows you to use any guage yellow and blue wires to maintain even spacing..as long as you wrap tightly, with the folded end held well, then you can remove the yellow/blue wires..Or, you can use fishing line as spacers, and leave them in place..

Hope this helps..

Cheers, John

Steve Eddy · 28th October 2003, 03:55 AM

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Originally posted by sully
Although I've never tried silver, here is a nice way to wind..

Take the length of wire you need...fold it in half..

Take the folded end, and start winding with that...put a second, any guage wire (say, a yellow wire) between the two silver ones (in the middle of the fold), and one to the outside right of it (say, blue)..in other words, wrap four wires on the tube at a time..with the silver alternating with the others..you should see silver, yellow, silver, blue, silver, yellow, and so on...

The yellow and blue wires are just spacers to hold the silver wire an exact, even distance...this method allows you to use any guage yellow and blue wires to maintain even spacing..as long as you wrap tightly, with the folded end held well, then you can remove the yellow/blue wires..Or, you can use fishing line as spacers, and leave them in place..

Clever!

I see you survived the sand crabs. I guess I didn't send enough of 'em after you.

Welcome back, John!

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sully · 28th October 2003, 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by Steve Eddy

Clever!

I see you survived the sand crabs. I guess I didn't send enough of 'em after you.

Welcome back, John!

se

Thanks..

Luckily, the moped outran them..nice try, but they have to be able to make at least 5 mph to catch the moped cowboy!!! Shoulda sent alaskan kings..I had the butter ready..

Cheers, John

Steve Eddy · 28th October 2003, 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by sully
Luckily, the moped outran them..nice try, but they have to be able to make at least 5 mph to catch the moped cowboy!!!

CURSES! Foiled again! I should have anticipated the moped and given them a supply of crack.

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Shoulda sent alaskan kings..I had the butter ready..

We gotcher butter raiiight heah, pal!

Hmmm. Where's that crotch-grabbing emoticon?

se

tom1356 · 28th October 2003, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Magura
hmm...as far as im concerned, silver is used to reduce resistance.....now making resistors of silver dosnt sound right...does it???

Magura

I agree with your thoughts but in practise these are very good sounding.

See here for more info.
http://www.audio-consulting.ch/silve...r_resistor.htm

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Originally posted by sully
Hi tom..

Although I've never tried silver, here is a nice way to wind..

Take the length of wire you need...fold it in half..

Take the folded end, and start winding with that...put a second, any guage wire (say, a yellow wire) between the two silver ones (in the middle of the fold), and one to the outside right of it (say, blue)..in other words, wrap four wires on the tube at a time..with the silver alternating with the others..you should see silver, yellow, silver, blue, silver, yellow, and so on...

The yellow and blue wires are just spacers to hold the silver wire an exact, even distance...this method allows you to use any guage yellow and blue wires to maintain even spacing..as long as you wrap tightly, with the folded end held well, then you can remove the yellow/blue wires..Or, you can use fishing line as spacers, and leave them in place..

Hope this helps..

Cheers, John

Thanks for the advice. I will give it a try.

Bernhard · 30th October 2003, 07:35 PM

One question:

( By the way I am fascinated by teflon insulated pure silver wire, silvermica caps, pure gold relais contacts and so on )

What does it help to have the most sophisticated parts on the playback side, if the signal is already spoiled on the recording side by magnetic resistors

, cheap op amps

and electrolytic coupling caps

Greetings, Bernhard

27th October 2003, 11:24 PM	#53
Magura diyAudio Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denmark, Viborg	hmm...as far as im concerned, silver is used to reduce resistance.....now making resistors of silver dosnt sound right...does it??? Magura __________________ Everything is possible....to do the impossible just takes a little while longer. www.class-a-labs.com

28th October 2003, 03:26 AM	#55
sully Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Long Island	Tom1356...winding tips... Hi tom.. Although I've never tried silver, here is a nice way to wind.. Take the length of wire you need...fold it in half.. Take the folded end, and start winding with that...put a second, any guage wire (say, a yellow wire) between the two silver ones (in the middle of the fold), and one to the outside right of it (say, blue)..in other words, wrap four wires on the tube at a time..with the silver alternating with the others..you should see silver, yellow, silver, blue, silver, yellow, and so on... The yellow and blue wires are just spacers to hold the silver wire an exact, even distance...this method allows you to use any guage yellow and blue wires to maintain even spacing..as long as you wrap tightly, with the folded end held well, then you can remove the yellow/blue wires..Or, you can use fishing line as spacers, and leave them in place.. Hope this helps.. Cheers, John

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30th October 2003, 07:35 PM	#60
Bernhard diyAudio Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Munich	One question: ( By the way I am fascinated by teflon insulated pure silver wire, silvermica caps, pure gold relais contacts and so on ) What does it help to have the most sophisticated parts on the playback side, if the signal is already spoiled on the recording side by magnetic resistors , cheap op amps and electrolytic coupling caps Greetings, Bernhard

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