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Old 15th December 2008, 03:15 AM   #1
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Default Need opamp recommendation

I blew a opamp and wondered since I have to replace it if there is anything in the same package that higher quality?

Here's the spec sheet http://www.analog.com/static/import...heets/AD744.pdf

The circuit was originally designed for a LF351N A friend had suggested the 744 series way back then. Maybe there's something even better?
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Old 15th December 2008, 04:45 AM   #2
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I post your link (corrected)
http://www.analog.com/static/importe...eets/AD744.pdf

Personally, I think AD744 is a very high class op-amp.
Think you should stick to that one.
Not much to improve using anything else.

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Old 15th December 2008, 04:48 AM   #3
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Thanks for fixing the link. Don't know what happened. If that's the best - I'm using the KN series then I'll order those. Just want to get the best part for the job. Oops. Just went to order them at Digikey and its a non stock.

Know where I can order from in the US?
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Old 15th December 2008, 05:00 AM   #4
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you could see what people think. google search:
http://www.google.com/search?q=ad744+audio+op-amps
for example this topic AD744 Revisted
http://www.fixup.net/talk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1475
where is compared to some other, like AD829, AD8397

Now, what op-amp will 'be perfect' is a lot depeding on the circuit in question
What you should avoid, is to replace one JFET input op-amp
with one using higher bias current Bipolar input
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It may be possible to do so. But may not work at all in other cases.
This has to do with that some circuits are supposing JFET very low input bias currents.
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Old 15th December 2008, 05:08 AM   #5
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Do you think this is a correct sub for a LF351N? I have been using the AD744 series but it could be causing issues I'm not aware of. It goes into an Audio Note board. Here's the ps schematic

http://www.audionotekits.com/PDF/Sch...heet_2_PDF.pdf

Thanks for the links. I'll read through them.
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Old 15th December 2008, 05:32 AM   #6
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Yes, I think AD744 is an excellent upgrade for LF351 in that DA-Converter +- 5.000 volt regulator supply.
http://cache.national.com/ds/LF/LF351.pdf

Looking at the simplified internal diagram of LF351 and AD744, they are almost identical.
But AD744 should be the better one. LF351 is an old JFET amplifier.

AD744 also has about same supply voltage range as LF351:
+-4.5 to +-18 VDC.
For example input voltage offset (precision) is 0.5 mV vs. 10 mV max offset.
This is 20 times lower offset.
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Old 15th December 2008, 05:34 AM   #7
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Thanks again. Looks like the kn series was replaced by the KNZ. Don't know if that's a touch different or not. Good news is digikey has them.
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Old 15th December 2008, 07:26 AM   #8
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How did you blow it up ?
With the greatest respect to Lineup, I would stick to the original device type here.
Power supplies like this can be surprisingly fussy on the device used, and I did some work on this a while back.
Is this a commercial product ? built by a manufacturer.
The AD744 may well be unstable in this configuration.
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Old 15th December 2008, 07:33 AM   #9
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I was going to ask the same question.

If AD744 did get blown in that circuit, then you have 2 options:

1. As Mooly suggest, stay with LF351.
It will probably perform very well enough. And will not oscillate & get destroed.

2. Study the datasheet and/or consult some that knows such circuits
and modify the circuit using (compensation- and bypass-) capacitors to get AD744 stable.
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Old 15th December 2008, 07:44 AM   #10
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Hello Lineup,
I don't think this is a commercial design, not that that matters. There are a few things that are odd.
The LED used as a reference, it's not stable enough as it is fed from an unreg supply via a resistor. LED's generate noise ! There is no filtering of this on the LED. The output voltage is too dependant on the exact type of LED and temperature etc.
The 100 mf cap that feeds back to the opamp. This can be a problem, some opamps will go unstable with this arrangement.
You need to measure ( scope ) the output of the opamp and the reg to see what is happening.

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