PIC Programming & PICKIT2 Anyone used one- Vista ? - Page 2

Mooly · 25th October 2008, 01:34 PM

Hello Bob,
Thank you for your kind offer. I am going to try and do some reading up on all this. Might be worth getting hold of that Elektor book. One "problem" is that my PC ( notebook ) only has USB connectivity, no serial port.
I asked Maplin technical ages ago about their USB to serial adaptor and whether it would work with the original Velleman PIC programmer. They reckoned it would, yet on the Maplin website in the FAQs at the time folks were saying it would not. Everyone said something different.
There's no great rush, I just feel it's something I should really get into, and if I don't do it now I never will

Thanks again for the very kind offer.

burbeck · 26th October 2008, 12:48 AM

hi Karl
your welcome, i know exactly your dilema with regards where to start with this stuff, having been through the same thing myself.

the digital stuff was ok with me if it was ttl or cmos,a few gates in a box i had my head around. but micro stuff seemed daunting, so i had a brief look at z80 gave up with it, too time consuming to much hardware my old brain overloaded. i only wanted to switch stuff on and off. and not many of them at that.

when the risc type micros came out i was again interested not enough however until the flash devices were availible, great you can flash em, and erase em great. just like tape recording wow now i understand that principal.

so after (like you) doing a bit of home work settling on the pic devices, went out and blew real money on programing tools, books etc. wasted a couple of hundred quid on stuff that i have never used. sometimes it can be a masive overload all the info that is available, as im sure you have found out.

my recommendation is to do a search on the pic16f84 this is a great chip for starting on, and the simple start up / beginers programs for it are endless, this chip has now been superseded but never mind that the info is there abound. you will find it a very good starting point.

i do absolutly realise the task you are involved in, sometimes its just too much info.
anyways good luck

Mooly · 26th October 2008, 01:42 PM

Hi Bob,
That sounds like me

make a "discrete logic board up" when I should be using a PIC.
Thanks for all your advice. Our local libraries seem to have quite a few books on the subject, unfortunately their website must be under maintenance today or I would have put a link in.
Probably order them or if I am anywhere near on my travels will call in.
Thanks again
Karl

xaudiox · 26th October 2008, 06:09 PM

I'm using Picbasic Pro for pic coding.. its very simple and can do alot of things... you can learn it very easily..

I simulate my code using Proteus which can do PIC/MCU simulations...

Adam Reed · 26th October 2008, 07:13 PM

If this is your first toe-dip in the PIC waters, I suggest you get a gen-you-ine Microchip PICKit2. 30-odd bucks, and it works as well (better in my experience) than the ICD2. I have both, andI use my PICKit2 most every day. MicroChip has a whole bunch of parts that work very nicely in debug mode with the PICkit2, and you can use it with MPLAB for programming as well. And there are tutorials to get you started!

I've been working with MicroChip and the PIC processors for 15 years now. I love using them, and I love the fact that MicroChip continues to listen to us developers and supply us the tools and parts that we need to do our jobs. That's what's made them successful.

cheers
Adam Reed
www.denderapartners.com

Mooly · 27th October 2008, 08:51 AM

Hi Adam,
Yes, first toe dipping ! The PICKIT2 is the one I was looking at in the beginning. I only have USB connectivity and I run Vista 32 bit Home Premium. It's whether it would run under Vista that I am unsure about.
thanks
Karl

Mooly · 27th October 2008, 09:35 AM

Hi Bob,
Our local libraries have these,
http://lclcat.lancashire.gov.uk/TalisPrism/doSearch.do

just type pic into keyword search,
not bad

I might learn something.

justblair · 27th October 2008, 01:51 PM

Sure Electronics do ICD and PicKit2 clones. I have one of the PICKit. Its USB if I remember correctly.

Takes an update of the Microcchip firmware to get it up and running, then its pretty good. Very cheap in comparison to the real thing

Mooly · 27th October 2008, 05:46 PM

Thanks for that, got a lot of reading to do !!
Your websites looking good

Adam Reed · 27th October 2008, 07:48 PM

Hi Mooly, if you go to MicroChip's Release notes for the PICKit2, it clearly states that it works with 32 bit Vista and is in test for 64-bit Vista.

Have fun!

cheers
Adam

26th October 2008, 12:48 AM	#12
burbeck diyAudio Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ratae Coritanorum	hi Karl your welcome, i know exactly your dilema with regards where to start with this stuff, having been through the same thing myself. the digital stuff was ok with me if it was ttl or cmos,a few gates in a box i had my head around. but micro stuff seemed daunting, so i had a brief look at z80 gave up with it, too time consuming to much hardware my old brain overloaded. i only wanted to switch stuff on and off. and not many of them at that. when the risc type micros came out i was again interested not enough however until the flash devices were availible, great you can flash em, and erase em great. just like tape recording wow now i understand that principal. so after (like you) doing a bit of home work settling on the pic devices, went out and blew real money on programing tools, books etc. wasted a couple of hundred quid on stuff that i have never used. sometimes it can be a masive overload all the info that is available, as im sure you have found out. my recommendation is to do a search on the pic16f84 this is a great chip for starting on, and the simple start up / beginers programs for it are endless, this chip has now been superseded but never mind that the info is there abound. you will find it a very good starting point. i do absolutly realise the task you are involved in, sometimes its just too much info. anyways good luck __________________ regards bob

26th October 2008, 07:13 PM	#15
Adam Reed diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004	pic programmers If this is your first toe-dip in the PIC waters, I suggest you get a gen-you-ine Microchip PICKit2. 30-odd bucks, and it works as well (better in my experience) than the ICD2. I have both, andI use my PICKit2 most every day. MicroChip has a whole bunch of parts that work very nicely in debug mode with the PICkit2, and you can use it with MPLAB for programming as well. And there are tutorials to get you started! I've been working with MicroChip and the PIC processors for 15 years now. I love using them, and I love the fact that MicroChip continues to listen to us developers and supply us the tools and parts that we need to do our jobs. That's what's made them successful. cheers Adam Reed www.denderapartners.com

27th October 2008, 01:51 PM	#18
justblair diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland	Sure Electronics do ICD and PicKit2 clones. I have one of the PICKit. Its USB if I remember correctly. Takes an update of the Microcchip firmware to get it up and running, then its pretty good. Very cheap in comparison to the real thing __________________ www.Justblair.co.uk, , Class T TA2024 Amp Modifications and reviews, Mission 753 modifications LM317 Voltage Calculator,LM3875 Gain Calculator, Tripath 2024 Gain Calculator "You smell that? Do you smell that? Solder, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of solder in the morning."

27th October 2008, 07:48 PM	#20
Adam Reed diyAudio Member Join Date: Jan 2004	PICKit2 Vista compatibilty Hi Mooly, if you go to MicroChip's Release notes for the PICKit2, it clearly states that it works with 32 bit Vista and is in test for 64-bit Vista. Have fun! cheers Adam

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25th October 2008, 01:34 PM	#11
Mooly diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Hello Bob, Thank you for your kind offer. I am going to try and do some reading up on all this. Might be worth getting hold of that Elektor book. One "problem" is that my PC ( notebook ) only has USB connectivity, no serial port. I asked Maplin technical ages ago about their USB to serial adaptor and whether it would work with the original Velleman PIC programmer. They reckoned it would, yet on the Maplin website in the FAQs at the time folks were saying it would not. Everyone said something different. There's no great rush, I just feel it's something I should really get into, and if I don't do it now I never will Thanks again for the very kind offer.

26th October 2008, 01:42 PM	#13
Mooly diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Hi Bob, That sounds like me make a "discrete logic board up" when I should be using a PIC. Thanks for all your advice. Our local libraries seem to have quite a few books on the subject, unfortunately their website must be under maintenance today or I would have put a link in. Probably order them or if I am anywhere near on my travels will call in. Thanks again Karl

26th October 2008, 06:09 PM	#14
xaudiox diyAudio Member Join Date: Jul 2006	I'm using Picbasic Pro for pic coding.. its very simple and can do alot of things... you can learn it very easily.. I simulate my code using Proteus which can do PIC/MCU simulations...

27th October 2008, 08:51 AM	#16
Mooly diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Hi Adam, Yes, first toe dipping ! The PICKIT2 is the one I was looking at in the beginning. I only have USB connectivity and I run Vista 32 bit Home Premium. It's whether it would run under Vista that I am unsure about. thanks Karl

27th October 2008, 09:35 AM	#17
Mooly diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Hi Bob, Our local libraries have these, http://lclcat.lancashire.gov.uk/TalisPrism/doSearch.do just type pic into keyword search, not bad I might learn something.

27th October 2008, 05:46 PM	#19
Mooly diyAudio Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Thanks for that, got a lot of reading to do !! Your websites looking good

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